From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52994: 29.0.50; Help descriptions from menu bar items don't appear in the echo area Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:11:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87a6fyr9r5.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8463e72.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2309"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 52994@debbugs.gnu.org, Daniel =?UTF-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 20 13:28:28 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nAWYF-0000QF-RE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 13:28:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57242 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nAWYE-00071p-FC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:28:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nAVNH-0002UY-HD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 06:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35354) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nAVNH-000396-5a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 06:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAVNG-0003Gn-1G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 06:13:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Third Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52994 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 52994-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52994.164267712212486 (code B ref 52994); Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52994) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2022 11:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56490 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAVMI-0003FK-6a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 06:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from outbound.soverin.net ([116.202.126.228]:47197) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAVMG-0003Ep-3c for 52994@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 06:12:00 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.soverin.net (unknown [10.10.3.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by outbound.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B5551F1; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from smtp.soverin.net (smtp.soverin.net [159.69.232.138]) by soverin.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=idiocy.org; s=soverin; t=1642677112; bh=aH6v8fZbFWAhT68XExEkgelGGo3tUekbP4PxkQl7bH8=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Iuv+E3Dq3M87FJ4OjA2l2tpmj8fZun+SZaHvo4cNOWcD2JEDRyImh11Tv1xEg0Qdn Xj/3vdwsPF9jIxIi+TPq/GilftgcousZ0IzaIZ5v89x0ACKhJg4DlS453PSVDiP/Ak NnF5uYWua7OvetPFNsG7QyErT4EUSVEKX2xf4cLfS3ajeKXCcM3P+3oAwmIYEIPEUZ cSQ16vfJ9o1Wsj52CJrOk0lTC3OvCtz5fZRz6RdAnjOKxWq1HaCYMYReMm+H+OLDAU 3FHAxDbu1JMH6IjWuU1M4D9v/OpbtoDVSOrLTtqA/nCSOUj52BRPPEXKTVIJplt/j7 PiN5CJLX4S/WA== In-Reply-To: <87o8463e72.fsf@gnus.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224675 Archived-At: On 20 January 2022 10:16:01 GMT, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrot= e: >Alan Third writes: > >> I was under the impression that the help text appears in a tooltip=2E W= e >> had a recent bug report where the wrong text was sometimes appearing >> in the tooltip, but that should be fixed now, at least on master=2E >> >> I'd be surprised if there's no tooltip at all or the tooltip is empty, >> it's a function provided by the toolkit=2E > >Do you mean on Macos or Debian? In Macos, I'm getting no tooltips when >using the menu=2E (And I'd be surprised to be getting them, really, >because the Macos menus are separated from the Emacs frame=2E) Oh, sorry, I totally misread this and thought it was about the toolbar=2E You're right, I don't expect tooltips to appear for menu items and I'm not= sure whether it's even possible to update the Emacs frame while the menus = are open=2E