From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kelly Dean Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19479: Copyright issue Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 19:57:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420834048 30876 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2015 20:07:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 20:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, assign@gnu.org, 19479@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 09 21:07:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fq0-0005vW-SW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 21:07:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52045 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fq0-00081z-5p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:07:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46044) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fpn-0007wW-OX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:07:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fpm-0006Gn-OS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:07:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60003) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fpm-0006Gi-M9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:07:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fpl-0002l8-UE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:07:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Kelly Dean Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 20:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19479 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: security Original-Received: via spool by 19479-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19479.142083399910573 (code B ref 19479); Fri, 09 Jan 2015 20:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19479) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jan 2015 20:06:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41135 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fpP-0002kS-7h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:06:39 -0500 Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:51735) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fpN-0002kI-OI for 19479@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:06:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.138]) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054AC41C079; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:06:36 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter9-d.gandi.net X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Header field occurs more than once: "Cc" occurs 3 times Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]) by mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hXygcAqZ34Wu; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:06:34 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 66.220.3.179 Original-Received: from localhost (gm179.geneticmail.com [66.220.3.179]) (Authenticated sender: kelly@prtime.org) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10BB941C073; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:06:32 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98139 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> 1. My code is PD. (In case the FSF disputes this fact, I'm attaching >> a signed document to establish it.) > > It can't be PD. You're simply confused about it. It will only be PD 7= 5 > years after your death (or something like that). Until then, all you > can do is sign paperworks, and currently for Emacs contributions we > require this paperwork to be a copyright assignment rather than > a disclaimer. GNU's own website says it can be PD. The documents at the three links I s= ent you start with: =E2=8C=9CI'd like to ask you to sign a disclaimer for the manual, thus pu= tting it in the public domain.=E2=8C=9D =E2=8C=9CI'd like to ask you to sign a disclaimer for the program, thus p= utting it in the public domain.=E2=8C=9D =E2=8C=9CI'd like to ask you to sign a disclaimer for your changes, thus = putting them in the public domain.=E2=8C=9D Notice the =E2=8C=9Cthus putting them in the public domain=E2=8C=9D. Also, do you claim that SQLite is not PD? The author, Richard Hipp, says = it's PD, and the many millions of users of SQLite, including many major c= ompanies with lots of copyright lawyers, accept the legal fact that it's = PD. And Richard Hipp is not dead. Also, do you claim that feedmail.el is not PD? The first lines of it are: ;;; feedmail.el --- assist other email packages to massage outgoing messa= ges ;;; This file is in the public domain. ;; This file is part of GNU Emacs.