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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Alan Mackenzie'" <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 13141@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: bug#13141: please review bug #13141
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:59:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ED6808FFB4C84116B3267774EC79431F__49571.4587429122$1358640052$gmane$org@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130119232015.GA517@acm.acm>

> > The patch is straightforward.  Please reconsider it.
> > Why not let users set the behavior they want for this?
> 
> I have to side with Glenn here.  We need to make Bug 
> reporters' jobs as simple as possible.

Why not give the individual bug reporters a say in what they think is simple?
Your idea of making their life easier might not be their idea.

Why does giving other users a choice bother you?
The default behavior would be the same as now.

> Sadly, there is a tendency for things which one _can_
> configure to become things that one _must_ configure -

I don't recognize any such tendency.  Give one example.

> we know all about this in Emacs

Well I don't know about it.  I've never seen the addition of a user option, with
no change to the default behavior, require any user to configure that option.

That's logically impossible.

If you do nothing then there is no change in behavior.  If you are unaware of
the option then your life is as simple as before.  If you are aware of it and IF
you want to take advantage of it, then you might even make life simpler for
yourself than before - but that's your choice.

> - which would be most unfriendly for novice bug reporters.

What would?  Giving a choice to any user who wants it?

> Let's keep this as simple as possible.

Let's give _users_ the choice.  Let's let them decide what is "as simple as
possible" for themselves, individually.

> > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=13141#43






  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-19 23:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <415AF94149E240B7BCB28128E45D3135@us.oracle.com>
2013-01-19 23:20 ` bug#13141: please review bug #13141 Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-19 23:21 ` Drew Adams
     [not found] ` <20130119232015.GA517@acm.acm>
2013-01-19 23:59   ` Drew Adams [this message]
     [not found]   ` <ED6808FFB4C84116B3267774EC79431F@us.oracle.com>
2013-01-20  0:12     ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20  7:16     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-20 10:50     ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]     ` <87obgk5npd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2013-01-20 10:33       ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20 17:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-20 18:41       ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-21  1:03         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-01-21  2:39         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
     [not found]     ` <20130120105003.GA3091@acm.acm>
2013-01-20 12:02       ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20 17:40       ` Drew Adams
     [not found]       ` <1543326591D441B1ABA599BE163B141E@us.oracle.com>
2013-01-21  4:24         ` Drew Adams
2012-12-11 16:00 bug#13141: 24.3.50; Be able to customize the info included by default for `report-emacs-bug' Drew Adams
2013-01-19 23:10 ` bug#13141: please review bug #13141 Drew Adams
2013-01-20  0:35   ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]   ` <87ip6sofn7.fsf@yandex.ru>
2013-01-20  0:54     ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20  1:03     ` Drew Adams
     [not found]     ` <20130120085455.93b0f44394a4db0ffcebd5c9@gmail.com>
2013-01-20  7:19       ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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