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From: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
To: Andrea Corallo <andrea_corallo@yahoo.it>,
	Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	42147@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#42147: 28.0.50; pure vs side-effect-free, missing optimizations?
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 16:58:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EADFCB4B-8EFA-4D53-A0F1-77E53FDBA57B@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1374652931.3977142.1593803140551@mail.yahoo.com>

3 juli 2020 kl. 21.05 skrev Andrea Corallo <andrea_corallo@yahoo.it>:

> attached the updated version of the patch updating the pure function
> classification.

Thanks Andrea! Philipp Stephani raised the interesting question of (essentially) whether 'car' is pure. For the purposes of the current constant folding in the byte compiler the answer is yes, but perhaps you have wider ambitions in your work?

Clearly, (car X) cannot be moved past some operations with side-effects if X is aliased:

(let* ((x (list 'a))
       (y (car x)))
  (f x)
  y)

Here, (car x) cannot be sunk past the call to f despite x remaining unchanged (assuming lexical binding).
It would be useful to know more exactly what notion of purity you require.






  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-04 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2020-06-30 22:27 ` bug#42147: 28.0.50; pure vs side-effect-free, missing optimizations? Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-06-30 23:14   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-01 12:46     ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-01 12:44   ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-01 16:08     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-01 21:31       ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-02 10:26         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-02 10:59           ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-02 12:46             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-02 13:56               ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-02 14:51                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-02 15:32                   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-02 15:49                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-02 18:01                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-02 18:55                       ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-02 19:38                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-02 20:09                         ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-03  9:32                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-03 13:39                             ` bug#42147: Hash-consing bignums (was: bug#42147: 28.0.50; pure vs side-effect-free, missing optimizations?) Stefan Monnier
2020-07-02 20:31                       ` bug#42147: 28.0.50; pure vs side-effect-free, missing optimizations? Paul Eggert
2020-07-02 21:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-02 23:16                         ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-03  8:32                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-03 13:11                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-03 18:35                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-03 18:43                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-03 19:05                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-04 14:58                                   ` Mattias Engdegård [this message]
2020-07-04 15:06                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-04 16:13                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-05 13:00                                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-05 13:16                                       ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-06 17:20                                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-06 21:23                                           ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-07 15:54                                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-07 16:24                                               ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-07 16:55                                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-07 17:42                                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-08 19:14                                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-08 21:25                                                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-08 22:19                                                       ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-09 10:20                                                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-09 12:47                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-09 12:57                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-09 14:35                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-09 15:19                                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-09 15:37                                                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-05 15:26                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-03 18:31                             ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-03 18:47                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-04 15:57                                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-04 16:15                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-04 16:27                                     ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-04 16:33                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-04 16:44                                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-04 17:00                                         ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-04 18:37                                           ` Pip Cet
2020-07-04 21:05                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-04 22:25                                               ` Pip Cet
2020-07-05  2:38                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-05  8:28                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-05  8:39                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2020-07-05 14:47                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-05 15:30                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-06  0:14                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-05 15:11                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-06  0:10                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-05  9:56                                             ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-05 10:03                                               ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-07-05 23:57                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-04 19:01                                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-04 17:10                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-04 19:26                                         ` Paul Eggert
2020-07-02 19:09           ` Philipp Stephani
2020-07-03  9:25             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-25 17:09               ` Philipp Stephani
2020-07-25 18:10                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-25 20:03                   ` Philipp Stephani
2020-07-25 20:07                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-25 20:11                       ` Philipp Stephani
2020-07-25 21:00                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-25 21:29                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-25 21:39                             ` Philipp Stephani
2020-07-25 22:27                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-29 12:53                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-07-29 14:28                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-25 21:54                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-25 22:30                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-26  9:05                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-29 16:03                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-07-29 20:39                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-03 15:07                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-08-10 13:39                                         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-10 22:07                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-10 13:42                                       ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-10 22:10                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-29 13:10                           ` Philipp Stephani
2020-07-25 21:09                         ` Stefan Monnier

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