From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#75398: 30.0.93; files.el documentation refers to "ITS-id" version control Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 22:22:45 -0500 Message-ID: References: <86zfk24xmi.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33863"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, 75398@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 10 04:23:23 2025 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tW5cJ-0008gO-0Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 04:23:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tW5bz-0005zX-J9; 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Thu, 09 Jan 2025 22:22:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tW5bi-0005RQ-5V; Thu, 09 Jan 2025 22:22:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=WB5o8M8QCQfongI1Ly6c9PM385G/HPEciPnwbHmqoh0=; b=G38DHwE4woTC XDcZNR5KaH8kbUjs6rfql5sUOG4wkAb1zn/jqhBRt43pEdcBqwWItWSOihHjJHVtojCiz1AHylwlk SSVFXdGYpYp12p3nb/Fxg8oalFdpXnFOzAjuwdTB/GsvVjY7Vbq3wgaT0ps6SATplnGvYPGdSUr6g fTAvDyG+ftWYpWpgyEG60Lt55VEso9QWN8w4qKLXplKxuEvoAydAWV+bsVYv8VJ6BIKK2/S8+1IRn xx++0EWiTFA2McUcCFkPfxsuMSAMOxspw/hCnNQPGq7vEhgHkjEN9i8IRL9KYvdKqhkOVK7DO+3rW 4KgCnsqVj6iyortGarVpHg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tW5bh-0002Cj-76; Thu, 09 Jan 2025 22:22:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: <86zfk24xmi.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 07 Jan 2025 14:27:49 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:298861 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > On ITS, the only place to store a version number was (1) in the second > > filename or (2) in the file contents. When that text was written, was > > there code in Emacs to store a version number in one of those places? > Doesn't look like it, I only see the ".~N~" numerical extensions. That practice for naming backup files looked partly similar to the ITS convention of using a version number as the second filename. But the semantics was different. I don't think the reference to ITS is very illuminating in the context of GNU Emacs. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)