From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#74261: 30.0.92; Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:54:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87h68hzqmw.fsf@librehacker.com> <861pziklbo.fsf@gnu.org> <86ldx7ijy3.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36026"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: christopher@librehacker.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, 74261@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 28 05:55:16 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tGWYd-0009EI-TP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:54:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tGWXp-00014l-UA; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:54:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=iHduGkRXMJuZLXKEYMhP16q6dHj5erT8xtGHf1xB6dA=; b=iRkjrS1Dcq1h I8+gHYVuysUQAAq56T2FilcalPftPBvrQL7I3BDBQEL+3xVp1+Z0z9PXKfCm6VUwYOz0Kw09n6GQn A/rxhBHPpaeOjgqh7lZAs5aWxpr5keR9LOdy0dBzC19IR8kcSo7XpcY6SOn1a/gcv5JhOL920QRVV MH6aos9NAt1Oxc45+KP+TdEnU9y3T+syhizndRsVUpIZO3o2aEFkLUMVXP2hv6NRcs0VP/Z1BQkKN uD508dNh5g232eRQYW98Pq544I4GMQYQOizswZKTE5L0FS1EuTXPkL3QxSTlKd3YkvEw3NA5r9r4I OA53ps/O2G9nfExgQJYuDA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tGWXp-0002uY-7L; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:54:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <86ldx7ijy3.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:20:20 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:296045 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > But I think it is useful to show this warning when person A looks at > > person B's file. Person A is likely to assume the file use lexical > > binding, when just about all files do so; therefore, it is useful to > > inform A that this file makes the unusual choice. > That could be the case, yes. > However, another way of looking at such situation is that if the > author (person B) decided the file should use dynamic scoping, that's > "good enough" for person A. I think this sentence may have changed the question unintentionally. "That's good enough for A" means "A should not object to what B decided". In that sense, think B's addition of he file variable often _should_ be good enough for A. But the question we were discussing is not whether A has a right to object to B's decision. It is whether A is aware of B's decision for that file. The warning will help make A aware of it. For example, assume that person B is > Emacs maintainers, and the file is part of Emacs. I think it will be useful to warn A that the file is set up to specify dynamic binding. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)