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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rphodges@gmail.com, 67185@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#67185: Small bug in the Introduction to Elisp manual
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:40:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1r4Yfr-0006gM-O5@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837cmgq23e.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 17 Nov 2023 09:19:01 +0200)

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  > That manual uses "converse" and "conversely" about half a dozen times:
  > are all of them incorrect, and actually mean "opposite" or maybe "by
  > contrast"?

I checked these, and I think they are correct.  Each one is about reversing
the direction of some relation, and "converse" means that/

    > The @code{kill-region} function definition also has an @code{unless}
    > macro; it is the converse of @code{when}.

That should say "opposite".  It's opposite because in the situation
where `when' runs its body, `unless' does not run its body.

                                                 The @code{unless} macro is
    > an @code{if} without a then clause

The point is valid if understood in a figurative sense -- so the
words need to indicate it is meant figuratively, not literally.  How
to do that?  Maybe this:

                                                 The @code{unless} macro is
     like an @code{if} except that it has no then-clause, and it supplies
     an implicit @code{nil} for that.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-19  3:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-14 23:14 bug#67185: Small bug in the Introduction to Elisp manual Ryan Hodges
2023-11-15 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <CABPno9+==Vp-x851SLp6m7E8-e2kr7DAxkzaYC2HF7VjAk2QjQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-11-15 19:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-15 20:18       ` Ryan Hodges
2023-11-17  3:56         ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-17  7:19           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-17 13:22             ` Ryan Hodges
2023-11-19  3:40             ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2023-11-19 10:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 19:01                 ` Ryan Hodges
2023-11-21  2:42                   ` Richard Stallman

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