From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:18:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <83sffipxn8.fsf@gnu.org> <87edqn6pmc.fsf@iki.fi> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27302"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 61325@debbugs.gnu.org To: Petteri Hintsanen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 20 06:19:17 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pTya3-0006t7-Vf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 06:19:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTyZs-0002rY-Pt; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:19:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTyZr-0002rL-4p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:19:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTyZq-0000Dv-RQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:19:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTyZq-0003Mg-7Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:19:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 05:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.167687029312863 (code B ref 61325); Mon, 20 Feb 2023 05:19:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2023 05:18:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50158 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTyZ3-0003LP-9I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:18:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47570) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTyZ1-0003LA-Jf for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:18:12 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTyYu-0008Jg-Sw; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:18:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=0bP2pO1GLaKl3snY3Pr0uFOnGGnITER32y9Z2rxwClQ=; b=R2Y7RPQaSiQK JtD1xwLc1L1GfXfo6yWe9LoOtSsvw3ssMeq2D15oOofzPrApLAKHijN530BRHy+QUkQvagUlUzJ0P OrCsbu9FLR+oElM8kjrKHtjQ2q9cB8x3bRCY+4qTVgs2a78J3gPLmtf1sa1QizvX1WXq/yy5uejcj yaQr/5sgECqIH+4wxGydMG5G08YdeZvumVku5Z7o0snfG01hk6Djv7InSlxhq4l+Sv/c3rz2wijea BddeeZBn8Pxhr4/D3ZVg0fs9jVHRfY2bAFckbon4xaQe4u4okY6lQMTtxf80umr0ZyQ44tB9yFCeI 4W+daiPdzfgpuXQk7Ug/iw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTyYu-0008QY-Kn; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:18:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87edqn6pmc.fsf@iki.fi> (message from Petteri Hintsanen on Sat, 18 Feb 2023 15:59:39 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256128 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] It is ok to have jokes, but this manual also has a serious job to do: explain how to use GNUS, in clear language that is easy to understand. If the explanation depends on getting a joke that not everyone gets, that is a bug, and it needs to be fixed. Would someone like to write a patch to say what "kill file" seriously means, and what "scoring" means, right after the joke about them? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)