From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:19:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> <873577570z.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40143"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 61325@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 18 05:21:16 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEip-000AGG-Hf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 05:21:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEid-00084I-P3; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEic-00083x-9V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:21:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEic-00080C-0t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:21:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEib-0005MW-QO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:21:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 04:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.167669400820528 (code B ref 61325); Sat, 18 Feb 2023 04:21:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2023 04:20:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42131 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhj-0005L2-JO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:20:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhb-0005J0-Ni for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:20:00 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhW-0007BS-B2; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:19:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=bGVWMGjklOK31hmIqVeyOLqBVTTf1lsz3ZC5UYyJ/J0=; b=B1JcAsKs2Epj hiypFoC5fRia6zTu1gmubHJKZnO7XwfdNa79ADedrK1yH3stdPURoCKp33cYLfH/ni7VeIrd/Hd92 tTuN83Z3ef9PTtLqjQ9QrlGq/NsxKzOWhGE9hv6XVrScJcZYjv8xciChaI77w6h/WbZfZwxyfJxUo DTOGbcBbjBGqDr0GwkM6USLsPuQcHYPBFr+grURq9km1E/nC2mtFPwVHYWE6E/HuoD3Zh8xwAk3Z9 HfMjEf2fk71BXc/G362lk0H7Veos/bOxwC4VX2yfsoGDRiNC5ZHVjkJ5jvwCIuul6PZur7artKKst v43Tsdy3LXe4pEC6N3LPUw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhV-0001eG-P2; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:19:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <873577570z.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:37:32 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255924 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > We owe no special consideration to people who try to impose their > > unrelated hgypersensitivities on others. They are demanding power > > which nobody should have. > I can see the point, but does it apply to well-known sensitive topics, > like sex, races, politics, etc? Nowadays there is a fashion for hypersensitivity; whatever the topic. If you approach within 50 feet, some will say "That's offensively close." No one is entitled to that much control over others. GNU manuals should not insult anyone, not even with a hint, except perhaps those who attack our freedom, for attacking our freedom. But we should not have to tiptoe through life lest some hypersensitive person take offense by association. > Or do you > mean that statements deliberately attacking/mocking people who use Gnus > (or certain parts/functions in Gnus) should be avoided? That is what I meant. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)