From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:19:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qn1afay.fsf@localhost> <87r0v17iul.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zg9peijp.fsf@localhost> <87mt5p7etx.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wn4tedtx.fsf@localhost> <87a61p7bpu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r0v1e9kg.fsf@localhost> <871qn16j3i.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qn0e67a.fsf@localhost> <87h6vw5qpw.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y1p8cqqs.fsf@localhost> <87cz6k5njc.fsf@yahoo.com> <87v8k33rnb.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37819"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 61325@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 18 05:20:47 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEiM-0009da-Ey for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2023 05:20:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhg-0007Og-KD; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:20:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhf-0007O2-62 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:20:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhe-0007Ef-T8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:20:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhe-0005Kc-Ni for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:20:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 04:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.167669400020421 (code B ref 61325); Sat, 18 Feb 2023 04:20:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2023 04:20:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42127 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhc-0005JH-9T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:20:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59546) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEha-0005Ix-AM for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:19:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhV-0007BH-3q; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:19:53 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=Hd1KBpPSEOvl9AsPlf7X1O4QDsjyqXKtoyYKblNlrew=; b=ji4BIqC3F4Ug k1+zQFsFsInMb4OnpNwebLjSSNt2pcyS5SwQmjABlbqv6bRg+zhvWmJ6lPaC3F6OzLPVKzmqTFacu 6TuTGlHwpfdfcTPUuV4hOaZliLiCfIgxTe0UwezYjwWKBhy4Bfw04Od9oNHTqAtrLttbm1Wm6Ujav G16wp2dVbAUcG9NqvzjYiwLcJYbj38lBJtBS6P50gYGO8ipeBH/ZLHO09GIA/B6/qbGfysfs7mmVF T1KwNgtuyskY/09gge5orrJjMa/AWDMipqAH/pXZ09wCgJKTwZLRhKrcHh4tTEwY9qTlKa/mgyEk9 Qxp+V0WPF81wEAz7lWqIDA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pTEhU-0001dq-SC; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 23:19:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87v8k33rnb.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:55:04 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255922 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > No, the first paragraph does not make the following paragraphs less > clear. My problem with this paragraph is different: if contains > technical information that is hard to understand without understanding > the joke. That may be a key to making progress. If some readers can't understand the technical information, that is indisputably a problem. The question is how to fix it. Can you show is concretel what technical information is hard to understand for those who don't get the joke? I have never used GNUS. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)