From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61277: FR: ELPA security - Restrict package builds to signed git commits Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:17:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87pmapqoo5.fsf@daniel-mendler.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29788"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: mail@daniel-mendler.de, 61277@debbugs.gnu.org, yantar92@posteo.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 15 06:18:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pSABb-0007Xa-83 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 06:18:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSAB9-0004ss-OM; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:18:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSAB9-0004sJ-0t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:18:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSAB8-00019m-DV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:18:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pSAB8-0007BR-9B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:18:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 05:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61277 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61277-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61277.167643824527535 (code B ref 61277); Wed, 15 Feb 2023 05:18:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61277) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2023 05:17:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57567 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pSAAX-0007A2-4E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:17:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40162) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pSAAU-00079m-Kf for 61277@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:17:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSAAM-000144-L3; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:17:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=3k+e+DICTLxSGEINru+xuINqd3cXOKffd8rU9Y07CuA=; b=mmRr+7GHQ/Eq rlMZ1faac7ethKq3VJxW/E3+v+Ncksp/kmoZsnko1PRG/7X3z7xHG3OQD4/wI+UN3jUI1iNFqItER J5DJFbG4C9OF3j7Bo8HO31tItlkx3AUXBu5XBR7yumefstJDbWilPf1t43up0o1KPA18S06nlruXe dmI8cCXsyeOxGdHa6/OY/uyqJL5HtZ3JHyQitHcidFdPx0h724bDbrkwkpFN0fnE5Db/h45uRqr2F AAwGpQ48XMLE743ZH3JSmSO+nf6vBKDpRlUTpdUf+RPJmR1oAgg3A35eK2jBpiSVbzSzka5+SKWc3 nDUEWsvhP1ZXZbrUFizh6A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSAAM-0002rh-D8; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 00:17:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 12 Feb 2023 06:37:01 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255665 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > In the case of a breach, > > > > Breach of precisely what? To think about this issue > > requires an answer to that question. > The idea is that the likelihood of both an SSH and a PGP key getting > stolen at the same time is lower than either one of them getting stolen > separately. That seems plausible to me, but we are miscommunicating. You're discussing the "how" of a possible breach, but what I really need to know is the "what". What is being breached? What is the context here? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)