From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 23:51:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10678"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yantar92@posteo.net, 61325@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 14 05:53:27 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pRnJm-0002aX-RR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2023 05:53:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRnJQ-0002yR-9A; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 23:53:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRnJP-0002yI-7P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 23:53:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRnJO-0004Zc-Ui for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 23:53:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pRnJO-0000XL-Gq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 23:53:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 04:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.16763503221958 (code B ref 61325); Tue, 14 Feb 2023 04:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2023 04:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52260 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pRnIP-0000VT-NC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 23:52:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43132) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pRnIM-0000VA-Kf for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 23:52:00 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRnIG-0004Od-7Q; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 23:51:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=WTXBAvJAgqWbLN5PSIcgxymCn1miS9cPZevBAMbp/5g=; b=LPrF5BbQgPTb ucaQEI/AA7d6koJ8OGRFAEUtgFX8qovXKbYFygXBNe6/8HsuoVMiNN0aJoRWZEEtpL4kqz/B+XKz7 3irc1ol7/ODM6A0pCleB8e3Lvuwdj6eavMbIFtfC9JRdHAZxoHCnEMp6M5JKdpFZrPflIIQ8eOZby mop5SWKU+C5xBQR6cddmYUxn/4GedYq2WK7LHfg5lY1mYgGbHt2pUHcI4T0zI6HLAuApzy39Y8zUI KHNRoy3A0GoKuAf4BrMTTtfxgqoJoW8PIJSvdvSTD2PBRiu8Ly5cNme4UIkOmE7DudciHS4XFbwLV 05WPhyyu9359XbMyYZPHSg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pRnIF-0005Q8-PN; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 23:51:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Sun, 12 Feb 2023 09:32:56 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255545 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > ‘z’ > > Suspend Gnus (‘gnus-group-suspend’). This doesn’t really exit > > Gnus, but it kills all buffers except the Group buffer. I’m not > > sure why this is a gain, but then who am I to judge? > > > > is implying what? Is it just a joke? Or is it saying that the function > > is useless? Discouraged? I am confused. I too feel confused by that patricular joke. Being a joke is not bad, but confusing the reader is bad. So I think it should be deleted. It poses a question which is a good question, but fails to answer it. Is the suspend command useful? I guess that it is or was useful for some people. Can anyone say why it was useful? How about replacing a joke with an explanation? > > 8 Scoring has > > > > Other people use “kill files”, but we here at Gnus Towers like scoring > > better than killing, so we’d rather switch than fight. They do > > something completely different as well, so sit up straight and pay > > attention! Can anyone explain that joke to me? I don't get it. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)