From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:28:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qn1afay.fsf@localhost> <87r0v17iul.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zg9peijp.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8180"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 61325@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 09 05:29:22 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pPyYj-0001tk-Ox for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 05:29:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPyYU-0001fA-Mq; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:29:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPyYR-0001eC-RK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:29:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPyYR-0005r7-4U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:29:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pPyYR-0001XX-0R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:29:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2023 04:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.16759169035834 (code B ref 61325); Thu, 09 Feb 2023 04:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2023 04:28:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57181 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pPyXn-0001Vx-7b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:28:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46158) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pPyXl-0001VV-E1 for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:28:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPyXg-0005kG-6u; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:28:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=Fqav2pTQ0NZToHY0RAN0b92n6y7bbDHmaieukpRtcVM=; b=QOat2/uBjeN6 IRR+Rgr09hkk2GoOVFYM+mOPHeh89T1czpft/DsYrEuNzKeLTcO4SxhVvuoAKPkvWXFgFJVF/rmkj EFvYdp5GY5+Ra4x0ZAnbUOIgacyJbExHAwA9cYvVYq8Lb0ZTBdbcZipnihMyKLjB0MO0rGCLivFtW dBzZ4mi7cd/on39Qu29kqRMt+lb2nDUhR0ez8XSkGT9eTEydx0fwDMIhWcVGj8BnV0oUvJW8gTdnA BsilIPbV/HvA5qC0Ht23OpYeyfKrZzcM+SNwH1aBs1oZP8vtdIk8v/mxI6kG+Et+/cv9ARDV3lbeg tgi6QE81GL4U15SzlB78Pw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pPyXf-0004fg-HM; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 23:28:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87zg9peijp.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Tue, 07 Feb 2023 13:01:14 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255183 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The paragraph structure is basically: > > Such structure is difficult to understand, especially if the joke itself > is not understood. Jokes which are hard for many readers to understand can be frustrating for the readers who can't understand them. So I think we should insist that jokes be comprehensible. In other words, don't include jokes whose claim to funniness comes from crucial links left unstated, stated vaguely, or replaced with "wink, wink." -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)