From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59258: 28.2; [Emacs Manual] Available PDFs are outdated/obsolete Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:16:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r0y547du.fsf@gmail.com> <83k03wibf3.fsf@gnu.org> <831qq0d5wm.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1s65az8.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3728"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rafaelbeirigo@gmail.com, 59258@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 24 00:17:31 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oxyzi-0000lP-SG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2022 00:17:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxyzI-00053N-UN; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:17:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxyzG-00052l-OS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:17:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxyzG-0002v2-F2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxyzG-0005LB-9u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:17:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 23:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59258 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59258-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59258.166924541420505 (code B ref 59258); Wed, 23 Nov 2022 23:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59258) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2022 23:16:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56561 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxyz8-0005Kf-7r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:16:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47452) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oxyz5-0005KL-Q3 for 59258@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:16:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxyyz-0002sw-JU; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:16:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=3f6pn8SgnzQjzqEmG2YYjfrUkG3hZHw/nWI/i/e01xA=; b=oiv9uytPKbEp 2n4zz5H4+w6yDkBTDrze9R6YhgHa6Y4lC7t+jgLLtAm4OnN68N8wSRDM11Th41aPafr/ijBcLEVXb vyHXQwnd7T8vkz2/wNA3DM7pZa32e92qhbbwTLQQfguLb1w5w8N9jrhTheI0cQXNW8DLyt/aa933L eo1BJuE93AdFKygXngz7gwGhN2hjMkA2P5fvEdHdqZ1f3hgzheLKn+F4kWHNGJ6dxSW7R7WuqRHtz f/osgIbhQJOucK7SK/4QikvLENv91IOImmoh9b7FlX1lj+sMB46iBvCLGI4vbvloHb4wT4rsqxw8U Mp6GarvS6HjMbYJ9w1yJOw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oxyyv-0003hu-S6; Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:16:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83y1s65az8.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 20 Nov 2022 09:41:31 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:248793 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that we should suggest to the FSF > to make a new printing, on our own initiative? I think it would make sense to tell them roughly when we expect the next re;ease to occur. That would help them decide whether to make a new edition soon. > but does > the FSF indeed want to publish a new edition whenever a new major release of > Emacs is out (or maybe even when it's in final stages of pretest)? I think it wants to _consider_ publishing a new edition at those times. The decision could depend on a number of details, such as how many copies they have on hand and how fast they would sell. etc, but we can let them worry about that. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)