From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59258: 28.2; [Emacs Manual] Available PDFs are outdated/obsolete Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:15:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r0y547du.fsf@gmail.com> <83k03wibf3.fsf@gnu.org> <831qq0d5wm.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1931"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rafaelbeirigo@gmail.com, 59258@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 20 02:16:27 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1owYwd-0000EO-A5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 02:16:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owYwH-0007Bz-QU; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:16:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owYwF-0007A4-6T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:16:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owYwE-0005O2-Ud for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owYwE-0000Sg-QD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:16:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 01:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59258 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59258-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59258.16689069481726 (code B ref 59258); Sun, 20 Nov 2022 01:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59258) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2022 01:15:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41871 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owYw0-0000Rl-6O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:15:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52684) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1owYvx-0000RR-7f for 59258@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:15:46 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owYvr-0005Gw-UF; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:15:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=dl/rNUK9CVfFlFsySPXpKc28gRc06seoMW1elJkh0kk=; b=ED4BGA+g9aYo nd7uk0QETvV093HUV3rgGwlYZxqkSXu8mwYW93+7Ilppn6CRkjfDVKiqe8HwAqSLpmSYQl4tt090d IELT1Yk+d5KUVKZZ0F8lWjx3t+x28R0U3OtJN7aHcfhkXhGLPZSSgwKLfMf8dIJmtf2BptFu+v4Uv XyomhRBOFmZ44xkMGVxFNUNgzAHtx5LhvSvGknj7xg1UHi5svpukgFMweYt4Mirj2pjX40Cot5HA6 rgFJPUsH/8kxQ3w2pcD0y4vukDqnTmYou6gJAH1rzpRP9KxOGAXEdQTJs+C+1eCMfwWQ6j4diPk7U uP9l7EzWU3jIUppHJUZ5JQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1owYvn-00045N-Dy; Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:15:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <831qq0d5wm.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 18 Nov 2022 10:27:05 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:248386 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > It would be good for the maintainers to talk with the FSF about when > > to publish a new paper edition. > It's usually the other way around: when the FSF is about to publish a > new version of some Emacs manual, someone from the FSF contacts us and > asks to produce a specially-formatted PDF file. I know. But even if they are not about to reprint, we might want to suggest printing a newer edition corresponding to Emacs 29. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)