From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55842: 29.0.50; Using shorthand syntax in keymap-global-set Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:46:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86czfjlc4r.fsf@gnu.org> <874k0u55a1.fsf@gnus.org> <83czfh3jlh.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfodztcd.fsf@gnus.org> <8335gd3heu.fsf@gnu.org> <87h74tzrlo.fsf@gnus.org> <83wndp20ch.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40816"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, arash@gnu.org, 55842@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 11 00:48:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nznQV-000AOU-Ej for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 11 Jun 2022 00:48:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52744 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nznQS-0003O6-Rz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:48:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nznPC-0002cC-SV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:47:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57624) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nznPC-00008P-K9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nznPC-00053m-Hq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:47:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 22:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55842 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 55842-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55842.165490121719438 (code B ref 55842); Fri, 10 Jun 2022 22:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2022 22:46:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51521 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nznP6-00053S-TX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:46:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36182) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nznP4-00053D-Iy for 55842@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:46:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41724) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nznOz-000070-4m; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:46:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=fNjJ9Jrom3ytgQeqK/peqOCE5CSCxozjhJyqGofupRE=; b=ZJgRIodvtmPE 6bJaaCmlgQDegizD8KZwGujicDcoKpKOlmgTiR578J8iQaNzBx3C7FcgSNwR+G5+fqL4BBZQUDU4R ySP0DcsNpePU3zkVr7UJNJNpnxptNiuyyFAV6iaY3rhLLvK6ELPHOkPv4/DHcBloXvI17TcokOYLU PJjQFAfe1dM0KzwLYJDDicuXaaEk29+G0J0PRKWLvoMyZNX3vKm9Sststr112mX9sOWv/jvcHdJtG 5OcvLMeqHh57n3SUG8HCiX8a8Yx3KMDVZ8fQHBzp2v43EC8aghDGEkFULLuejh2zYaLYSEtuGZQwm xM+ak27cb7lW5Pl8b2Me9Q==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nznOu-0000cg-Ci; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:46:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83wndp20ch.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 09 Jun 2022 20:49:50 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234243 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > The aim with these new functions were to settle on a single syntax for > > keys, and the syntax we settled on was the `kbd' one. You can't > > do (keymap-local-set "\C-\M-i" ...) or (keymap-local-set [?\C-\M-i] .. ) > > or (keymap-local-set [(control meta i)] ...) either -- that was the > > whole point of the exercise. > Then I wish us good luck convincing users to switch. Even if we never convince _all users_ to switch, if most packages use the new syntax, that will be an improvement in clarity. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)