From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30204: 27.0.50; Changing major mode resets non-default invisibility spec Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 17:56:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87lf55cxvj.fsf@gnus.org> <97574057-8212-4812-93CF-0C2EC7EA8B39@gmail.com> <87ilzfo13i.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnnvtlgn.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgsrmk75.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8825snj.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf34qxoq.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35593"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: p.stephani2@gmail.com, 30204@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 08 23:57:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mYxrd-00096W-2R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 23:57:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43648 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYxrb-00048A-JI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 17:57:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYxrS-00047m-6v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 17:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40479) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYxrR-0004OT-Vj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 17:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mYxrR-0004t4-TF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 17:57:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 21:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 30204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30204.163373017718735 (code B ref 30204); Fri, 08 Oct 2021 21:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Oct 2021 21:56:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52025 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mYxqj-0004s6-Jq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 17:56:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45480) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mYxqi-0004ru-J3 for 30204@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 17:56:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59826) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYxqd-0002SW-3c; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 17:56:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYxqc-00071b-Po; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 17:56:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lf34qxoq.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 08 Oct 2021 00:25:57 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216737 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I suggest renaming it to something like `clean-buffer'. > It's a mode -- it continues to remove text properties from text you yank > into it. Thanks for explaining. "Clean" is not a very clear name for this, because the idea that having no text properties is "cleaner" is a matter of taste. Some might not make the connection between the word "cleam" and what this does. Thus, people will have more difficulty remembering the name from the meaning and vice versa. I suggest renaming it to "no-properties-mode". -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)