From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 23:38:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <97d3ff2c-9e72-4004-88a9-08130ac99a74@default> <878s0g796w.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11865"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ke.vigouroux@laposte.net, 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org To: Augusto Stoffel Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 02 05:43:22 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mLddK-0002qr-Aj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 05:43:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47102 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLddJ-0005cF-BL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 23:43:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52426) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLdZ8-0006y2-EB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 23:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:55993) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLdZ8-0003iA-5C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 23:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLdZ7-0003nI-SM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 23:39:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 03:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21695 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21695-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21695.163055392714563 (code B ref 21695); Thu, 02 Sep 2021 03:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21695) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2021 03:38:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39306 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLdYs-0003mp-Vm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 23:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36176) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLdYq-0003mc-VQ for 21695@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 23:38:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46518) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLdYj-0003Lr-K6; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 23:38:39 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLdYj-0003Qc-Fw; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 23:38:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878s0g796w.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Augusto Stoffel on Wed, 01 Sep 2021 14:48:55 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:213223 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Namely, if a variable is marked to automatically become buffer-local > when set, then setq will only set it in the temporary buffer where > init.el is evaluated. With those variables, you're supposed to use setq-default if your aim is to change the default value. > Maybe calling setq during init time on automatically buffer-local > variables should generate a warning. Perhaps it should do that only if you're in the buffer that is current by default during the init files. I think the basic idea of this warning is good. There are various possble ways to implement a warning, so it would be useful to look, now, for the best way. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)