From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46621: Copy line Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:23:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87tuq99ova.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2fkrypp.fsf@gnus.org> <87ft1qq4b6.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8ge8ugr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87im6lls1r.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32623"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 46621@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, mardani29@yahoo.es To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 07:24:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lE4e1-0008Ll-7W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 07:24:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59198 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lE4e0-00037k-6m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:24:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50192) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lE4dZ-00037F-Sg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:24:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43864) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lE4dW-0008TA-BO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:24:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lE4dW-0007Gc-7H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:24:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 06:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46621 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46621-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46621.161397499227859 (code B ref 46621); Mon, 22 Feb 2021 06:24:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46621) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2021 06:23:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55407 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lE4ci-0007FH-0k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:23:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60290) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lE4cg-0007F3-7f for 46621@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:23:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48425) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lE4ca-000812-PP; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:23:04 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lE4cZ-0006uo-SH; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:23:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87im6lls1r.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Sun, 21 Feb 2021 10:54:24 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:200544 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Once in a while I want to do that. It is easy: C-a C-k C-k, > > they C-y as many times as needed. > Let's compare these two solutions. Trying to copy 10 lines: > C-a C-k C-k C-y C-y C-y C-y C-y C-y C-y C-y C-y C-y > and adds an unrequested entry to the kill ring > that the user needs to remove from the kill ring later. With my proposd change to C-y, it would be C-a C-k C-k C-u 12 C-y and it would not require the user to make a new key binding. Changing the contents of the kill ring is not a drawback. It is the normal way you move text around in Emacs. > It's not realistic to change the meaning of the numeric arg to C-y. > People already use the current meaning for decades. We could inquire of the users to see what they think about the issue. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)