From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46627: [PATCH] Add new help command 'describe-command' Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 01:19:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: <835z2o4fes.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31311"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 46627@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 21 07:20:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDi6K-000841-3w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 07:20:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36778 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDi6J-0005PI-56 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 01:20:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44762) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDi67-0005Nt-1l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 01:20:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDi66-00067E-QV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 01:20:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDi66-0002l3-MJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 01:20:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 06:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 46627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46627.161388836310533 (code B ref 46627); Sun, 21 Feb 2021 06:20:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2021 06:19:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53394 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDi5T-0002jo-2H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 01:19:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54972) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDi5R-0002jU-PZ for 46627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 01:19:22 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58231) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDi5M-0005ah-Iu; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 01:19:16 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lDi5L-0005Qb-Jc; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 01:19:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 10:39:14 -0600) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:200470 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Consider the situation when a user doesn't already know the command > name. The workflow today is something like: use `M-x' to find the > command name, Is this really what people do? I am surprised people find it useful, surprised that you can ever find a command name that way. If you have seen users do it, can you say more about the situations where it is effective? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)