From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45438: 27.1; please fix misleading documentation for assoc-delete-all Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:28:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zh21fsb3.fsf@cert.kernkonzept.com> <87blehcyai.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3077"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: hendrik.tews@kernkonzept.com, 45438@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 26 11:29:23 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6p7-0000f4-Ax for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 11:29:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47298 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6p6-0006Z2-Bk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:29:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51186) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6oq-0006Wl-LM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:29:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47211) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6oo-0002l2-Pn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:29:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6oo-0004PU-ME for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:29:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 10:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45438 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 45438-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45438.160897849016841 (code B ref 45438); Sat, 26 Dec 2020 10:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45438) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2020 10:28:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58748 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6ny-0004NZ-2F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:28:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57746) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6nw-0004NN-CL for 45438@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:28:08 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60373) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6nq-0002PO-M3; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kt6no-0002VV-Ma; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:28:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87blehcyai.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 25 Dec 2020 23:32:05 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:196756 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Indeed, but Emacs does not have a history of when functions are > introduced -- we only have guesswork. Which is why it says "probably". Every new function is listed in the ChangeLog files. _We_ know when it was introduced. What this means > > assoc-delete-all was introduced in emacs 26.2, however, > > describe-function says "Probably introduced at or before Emacs > > version 21.1.". is that the data that describe-function consults does not have all the information that we have. Whether it is worth doing the work to make it better, I have no opinion. Maybe it is better to do other work instead. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)