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* bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement
@ 2020-11-25  9:00 Julian Gilbey
  2020-11-26 10:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Julian Gilbey @ 2020-11-25  9:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 44864


I am using multi-mode.el, available from
http://www.loveshack.ukfsn.org/emacs
In this script, it says:

            ;; Use file's local variables section to set variables in
            ;; this buffer.  (Don't just copy local variables from the
            ;; base buffer because it may have set things locally that
            ;; we don't want in the other modes.)  We need to prevent
            ;; `mode' being processed and re-setting the major mode.
            ;; It all goes badly wrong if `hack-one-local-variable' is
            ;; advised.  The appropriate mechanism to get round this
            ;; appears to be `ad-with-originals', but we don't want to
            ;; pull in the advice package unnecessarily.  `flet'-like
            ;; mechanisms lose with advice because `fset' acts on the
            ;; advice anyway.
            (if (featurep 'advice)
                (ad-with-originals (hack-one-local-variable)
                  (multi-hack-local-variables))
              (multi-hack-local-variables))

The ad-with-originals function has been marked as obsolete in version
27.1 of emacs, so I now get a warning message every time I load
emacs.  But there is no advice on what to do instead.

Thanks!

   Julian


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* bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement
  2020-11-25  9:00 bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement Julian Gilbey
@ 2020-11-26 10:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-11-26 15:39 ` Stefan Monnier
  2021-10-14 15:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-11-26 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julian Gilbey; +Cc: 44864, Stefan Monnier

Julian Gilbey <julian-gnu@d-and-j.net> writes:

>                 (ad-with-originals (hack-one-local-variable)
>                   (multi-hack-local-variables))
>               (multi-hack-local-variables))
>
> The ad-with-originals function has been marked as obsolete in version
> 27.1 of emacs, so I now get a warning message every time I load
> emacs.  But there is no advice on what to do instead.

The macro was obsoleted by this commit, so perhaps Stefan (added to the
Ccs) has some insight here.

commit 458948189e56a110739ff9002236d269b8382293
Author:     Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
AuthorDate: Mon Sep 17 14:02:05 2018 -0400

    * lisp/emacs-lisp/advice.el: Only use defmacro when needed
    
    (ad-get-advice-info): Mark it inlinable.
    (ad-get-advice-info-macro): Make it an obsolete alias.
    (ad-copy-advice-info, ad-is-advised, ad-get-advice-info-field)
    (ad-find-advice, ad-macrofy, ad-lambdafy, ad-lambda-p, ad-advice-p)
    (ad-compiled-p, ad-compiled-code, ad-get-cache-definition)
    (ad-get-cache-id, ad-set-cache): Turn macros into defsubsts.
    (ad-defadvice-flags): Make it into a plain list.
    (ad-set-advice-info-field): Apply a bit of CSE.


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* bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement
  2020-11-25  9:00 bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement Julian Gilbey
  2020-11-26 10:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-11-26 15:39 ` Stefan Monnier
  2020-11-26 17:09   ` Julian Gilbey
  2021-10-14 15:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2020-11-26 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julian Gilbey; +Cc: 44864

>             ;; Use file's local variables section to set variables in
>             ;; this buffer.  (Don't just copy local variables from the
>             ;; base buffer because it may have set things locally that
>             ;; we don't want in the other modes.)  We need to prevent
>             ;; `mode' being processed and re-setting the major mode.
>             ;; It all goes badly wrong if `hack-one-local-variable' is
>             ;; advised.  The appropriate mechanism to get round this
>             ;; appears to be `ad-with-originals', but we don't want to
>             ;; pull in the advice package unnecessarily.  `flet'-like
>             ;; mechanisms lose with advice because `fset' acts on the
>             ;; advice anyway.
>             (if (featurep 'advice)
>                 (ad-with-originals (hack-one-local-variable)
>                   (multi-hack-local-variables))
>               (multi-hack-local-variables))

The comment doesn't explain why Dave thought that "It all goes badly
wrong if `hack-one-local-variable' is advised", so there's not much we
can do.  AFAIK it will only go wrong with some advice, so he must have
had some particular pieces of advice in mind.

`advice.el` is deprecated anyway, so my recommendation is to remove this
test and just call `multi-hack-local-variables` without paying attention
to any potential advice there.  If/when you bump into a problem with
that, then we'll be able to see what should be done (the best option
might be to change the advice itself).

> But there is no advice on what to do instead.

I think that's because `ad-with-originals` was used on it ;-)


        Stefan






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* bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement
  2020-11-26 15:39 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2020-11-26 17:09   ` Julian Gilbey
  2020-11-26 17:54     ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Julian Gilbey @ 2020-11-26 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 44864

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 10:39:10AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >             ;; Use file's local variables section to set variables in
> >             ;; this buffer.  (Don't just copy local variables from the
> >             ;; base buffer because it may have set things locally that
> >             ;; we don't want in the other modes.)  We need to prevent
> >             ;; `mode' being processed and re-setting the major mode.
> >             ;; It all goes badly wrong if `hack-one-local-variable' is
> >             ;; advised.  The appropriate mechanism to get round this
> >             ;; appears to be `ad-with-originals', but we don't want to
> >             ;; pull in the advice package unnecessarily.  `flet'-like
> >             ;; mechanisms lose with advice because `fset' acts on the
> >             ;; advice anyway.
> >             (if (featurep 'advice)
> >                 (ad-with-originals (hack-one-local-variable)
> >                   (multi-hack-local-variables))
> >               (multi-hack-local-variables))
> 
> The comment doesn't explain why Dave thought that "It all goes badly
> wrong if `hack-one-local-variable' is advised", so there's not much we
> can do.  AFAIK it will only go wrong with some advice, so he must have
> had some particular pieces of advice in mind.
> 
> `advice.el` is deprecated anyway, so my recommendation is to remove this
> test and just call `multi-hack-local-variables` without paying attention
> to any potential advice there.  If/when you bump into a problem with
> that, then we'll be able to see what should be done (the best option
> might be to change the advice itself).

Thanks Stefan!

That sounds eminently sensible.  Scouring the rest of Dave's file, I
found the following comment at the beginning of the function you've
just quoted from:

(defun multi-install-mode (mode &optional chunk-fn base)
  "Add MODE to the multiple major modes supported by the current buffer.
CHUNK-FN, if non-nil, is a function to select the mode of a chunk,
added to the list `multi-chunk-fns'.  BASE non-nil means that this
is the base mode."
  (unless (memq mode multi-indirect-buffers-alist) ; be idempotent
    ;; This is part of a grim hack for lossage in AUCTeX, which
    ;; bogusly advises `hack-one-local-variable'.  This loses, due to
    ;; the way advice works, when we run `multi-hack-local-variables'
    ;; below -- there ought to be a way round this, probably with CL's
    ;; flet.  Any subsequent use of it then fails because advice has
    ;; captured the now-unbound variable `late-hack'...  Thus ensure
    ;; we've loaded the mode in advance to get any autoloads sorted
    ;; out.  Do it generally in case other modes have similar
    ;; problems.  [The AUCTeX stuff is in support of an undocumented
    ;; feature which is unnecessary and, anyway, wouldn't need advice
    ;; to implement.  Unfortunately the maintainer seems not to
    ;; understand the local variables mechanism and wouldn't remove
    ;; this.  To invoke minor modes, you should just use `mode:' in
    ;; `local variables'.]

And in auctex/tex.el, we have:

(defadvice hack-one-local-variable (after TeX-hack-one-local-variable-after
                                          activate)
  "Call minor mode function if minor mode variable is found."
  (let ((var (ad-get-arg 0))
        (val (ad-get-arg 1)))
    ;; Instead of checking for each mode explicitely `minor-mode-list'
    ;; could be used.  But this may make the byte compiler pop up.
    (when (memq var '(TeX-PDF-mode
                      TeX-source-correlate-mode TeX-interactive-mode
                      TeX-fold-mode LaTeX-math-mode))
      (if (symbol-value val) (funcall var 1) (funcall var 0)))))

So I'm guessing that's what he's referring to.

> > But there is no advice on what to do instead.
> 
> I think that's because `ad-with-originals` was used on it ;-)

Ah, that's beginning to make some sense!

Many thanks,

   Julian





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* bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement
  2020-11-26 17:09   ` Julian Gilbey
@ 2020-11-26 17:54     ` Stefan Monnier
  2021-08-27 15:36       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2020-11-26 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julian Gilbey; +Cc: 44864

> That sounds eminently sensible.  Scouring the rest of Dave's file, I
> found the following comment at the beginning of the function you've
> just quoted from:

Hmm... seems relevant indeed.

> (defun multi-install-mode (mode &optional chunk-fn base)
>   "Add MODE to the multiple major modes supported by the current buffer.
> CHUNK-FN, if non-nil, is a function to select the mode of a chunk,
> added to the list `multi-chunk-fns'.  BASE non-nil means that this
> is the base mode."
>   (unless (memq mode multi-indirect-buffers-alist) ; be idempotent
>     ;; This is part of a grim hack for lossage in AUCTeX, which
>     ;; bogusly advises `hack-one-local-variable'.  This loses, due to
>     ;; the way advice works, when we run `multi-hack-local-variables'
>     ;; below -- there ought to be a way round this, probably with CL's
>     ;; flet.  Any subsequent use of it then fails because advice has
>     ;; captured the now-unbound variable `late-hack'...  Thus ensure
>     ;; we've loaded the mode in advance to get any autoloads sorted
>     ;; out.  Do it generally in case other modes have similar
>     ;; problems.  [The AUCTeX stuff is in support of an undocumented
>     ;; feature which is unnecessary and, anyway, wouldn't need advice
>     ;; to implement.  Unfortunately the maintainer seems not to
>     ;; understand the local variables mechanism and wouldn't remove
>     ;; this.  To invoke minor modes, you should just use `mode:' in
>     ;; `local variables'.]

I'm not sure I understand the details of the problem described, but
I think I see the general idea.  Indeed when multi-mode.el does:

    (let ((late-hack (symbol-function 'hack-one-local-variable)))
      (fset 'hack-one-local-variable
            (lambda (var val)
              (unless (eq var 'mode)
                (funcall late-hack var val))))
      (unwind-protect
          (hack-local-variables)
        (fset 'hack-one-local-variable late-hack))))

if the code run within `hack-local-variables` ends up looking at the
definition of `hack-one-local-variable` and saving it somewhere for
later use (e.g. if `defadvice` is used at this moment, maybe because
AUCTeX was autoloaded during the course of running
`hack-local-variables`), then we could have a problem.  To some extent
the final `fset` above should hide the problem, but it probably just
ends up putting advice in an inconsistent state or worse (depending on
the version of `advice`).

I think with the new version of `advice.el` (introduced when
`nadvice.el` was introduced, to make them interact tolerably) the
problem should be minor: the final `fset` should not put `advice.el` in
an inconsistent state but should simply undo the `defadvice` that
happened during `hack-local-variables` (which is still undesirable,
arguably, but should be mostly harmless as long as you don't rely on
the feature implemented by that advice).

> So I'm guessing that's what he's referring to.

Indeed.

You might like to try the patch below (guaranteed 100% untested).
Do you think it would be worthwhile to add it to GNU ELPA?


        Stefan


diff --git a/multi-mode.el b/multi-mode.el
index cece376..06291cf 100644
--- a/multi-mode.el
+++ b/multi-mode.el
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
-;;; multi-mode.el --- support for multiple major modes
+;;; multi-mode.el --- support for multiple major modes  -*- lexical-binding: t; -*-
 
-;; Copyright (C) 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
+;; Copyright (C) 2003-2020  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 
 ;; Author: Dave Love <fx@gnu.org>
 ;; Keywords: languages, extensions, files
@@ -164,27 +164,26 @@ Buffer local.")
   "Original value of `imenu-create-index-function' for the buffer's mode.")
 (make-variable-buffer-local 'multi-late-index-function)
 
+(define-obsolete-variable-alias 'multi-alist 'multi-mode-alist nil)
 (defvar multi-mode-alist nil
   "Alist of elements (MODE . FUNCTION) specifying a buffer's multiple modes.
 MODE is a major mode and FUNCTION is a function used as an element of
 `multi-chunk-fns' or nil.  Use nil if MODE is detected by another element
 of the alist.")
 
-(if (fboundp 'define-obsolete-variable-alias)
-    (define-obsolete-variable-alias 'multi-alist 'multi-mode-alist)
-  (make-obsolete-variable 'multi-alist 'multi-mode-alist))
-
 ;; See the commentary below.
 (defun multi-hack-local-variables ()
   "Like `hack-local-variables', but ignore `mode' items."
-  (let ((late-hack (symbol-function 'hack-one-local-variable)))
-    (fset 'hack-one-local-variable
-	  (lambda (var val)
-	    (unless (eq var 'mode)
-	      (funcall late-hack var val))))
+  (let ((f (lambda (orig-fun var val)
+	     (unless (eq var 'mode)
+	       (funcall orig-fun var val)))))
     (unwind-protect
-	(hack-local-variables)
-      (fset 'hack-one-local-variable late-hack))))
+	(progn
+	  (advice-add 'hack-one-local-variable :around f)
+	  (hack-local-variables))
+      (advice-remove 'hack-one-local-variable f))))
+
+(defvar multi-mode)
 
 (defun multi-install-mode (mode &optional chunk-fn base)
   "Add MODE to the multiple major modes supported by the current buffer.
@@ -235,21 +234,7 @@ is the base mode."
 	      (funcall mode))
 	    ;; Now we can make it local:
 	    (set (make-local-variable 'multi-mode) t)
-	    ;; Use file's local variables section to set variables in
-	    ;; this buffer.  (Don't just copy local variables from the
-	    ;; base buffer because it may have set things locally that
-	    ;; we don't want in the other modes.)  We need to prevent
-	    ;; `mode' being processed and re-setting the major mode.
-	    ;; It all goes badly wrong if `hack-one-local-variable' is
-	    ;; advised.  The appropriate mechanism to get round this
-	    ;; appears to be `ad-with-originals', but we don't want to
-	    ;; pull in the advice package unnecessarily.  `flet'-like
-	    ;; mechanisms lose with advice because `fset' acts on the
-	    ;; advice anyway.
-	    (if (featurep 'advice)
-		(ad-with-originals (hack-one-local-variable)
-		  (multi-hack-local-variables))
-	      (multi-hack-local-variables))
+	    (multi-hack-local-variables)
 	    ;; Indentation should first narrow to the chunk.  Modes
 	    ;; should normally just bind `indent-line-function' to
 	    ;; handle indentation.
@@ -290,9 +275,9 @@ is the base mode."
 	    ;; Kill the base buffer along with the indirect one; careful not
 	    ;; to infloop.
 	    (add-hook 'kill-buffer-hook
-		      '(lambda ()
-			 (setq kill-buffer-hook nil)
-			 (kill-buffer (buffer-base-buffer)))
+		      (lambda ()
+			(setq kill-buffer-hook nil)
+			(kill-buffer (buffer-base-buffer)))
 		      t t)
 	    ;; This should probably be at the front of the hook list, so
 	    ;; that other hook functions get run in the (perhaps)
@@ -306,7 +291,7 @@ is the base mode."
 	    (setq buffer-file-coding-system coding)
 	    ;; For benefit of things like VC
 	    (setq buffer-file-name file)
-	    (vc-find-file-hook))
+	    (vc-refresh-state))
 	  ;; Propagate updated values of the relevant buffer-local
 	  ;; variables to the indirect buffers.
 	  (dolist (x alist)
@@ -373,8 +358,7 @@ Fontifies chunk-by-chunk within the region from START for up to
 Works piece-wise in all the chunks with the same major mode.
 Assigned to `imenu-create-index-function'."
   (let ((selected-mode major-mode)
-	imenu-alist			; accumulator
-	last mode)
+	imenu-alist)			; accumulator
     (multi-map-over-chunks
      (point-min) (point-max)
      (lambda ()
@@ -454,8 +438,7 @@ Destructively modifies `multi-mode-list' to avoid consing in
 Return a list (MODE START END), the value returned by the function in the
 list for which START is closest to POS (and before it); i.e. the innermost
 mode is selected.  POS defaults to point."
-  (let ((fns multi-chunk-fns)
-	(start (point-min))
+  (let ((start (point-min))
 	(mode (with-current-buffer (multi-base-buffer)
 		major-mode))
 	(end (point-max))
@@ -500,28 +483,6 @@ mode is selected.  POS defaults to point."
     (fundamental-mode)
     (error "`multi-mode-alist' not defined for multi-mode")))
 
-;; In 21.3, Flyspell breaks things, apparently by getting an error in
-;; post-command-hook and thus clobbering it.  In development code it
-;; doesn't do that, but does check indirect buffers it shouldn't.  I'm
-;; not sure exactly how this happens, but checking flyspell-mode in
-;; the hook functions cures this.  For the moment, we'll hack this up.
-;; (Let's not bring advice into it...)
-(eval-after-load "flyspell"
-  '(progn
-     (defalias 'flyspell-post-command-hook
-       `(lambda ()
-	  ,(concat (documentation 'flyspell-post-command-hook)
-		   "\n\n[Wrapped by multi-mode.]")
-	  (if flyspell-mode
-	   (funcall ,(symbol-function 'flyspell-post-command-hook)))))
-
-     (defalias 'flyspell-pre-command-hook
-       `(lambda ()
-	  (concat (documentation 'flyspell-pre-command-hook)
-		  "\n\n[Wrapped by multi-mode.]")
-	  (if 'flyspell-mode
-	      (funcall ,(symbol-function 'flyspell-pre-command-hook)))))))
-
 ;; This is useful in composite modes to determine whether a putative
 ;; major mode is safe to invoke.
 (defun multi-mode-major-mode-p (value)






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* bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement
  2020-11-26 17:54     ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2021-08-27 15:36       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2021-09-13 15:29         ` Julian Gilbey
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-08-27 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 44864, Julian Gilbey

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> You might like to try the patch below (guaranteed 100% untested).
> Do you think it would be worthwhile to add it to GNU ELPA?

This was half a year ago, but there wasn't any follow-up here.

Reading this thread, there doesn't really seem to be anything to do on
the Emacs side of things?  (Other than possibly putting multi-mode.el on
ELPA.)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement
  2021-08-27 15:36       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2021-09-13 15:29         ` Julian Gilbey
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Julian Gilbey @ 2021-09-13 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 44864, Stefan Monnier

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 05:36:43PM +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> 
> > You might like to try the patch below (guaranteed 100% untested).
> > Do you think it would be worthwhile to add it to GNU ELPA?
> 
> This was half a year ago, but there wasn't any follow-up here.
> 
> Reading this thread, there doesn't really seem to be anything to do on
> the Emacs side of things?  (Other than possibly putting multi-mode.el on
> ELPA.)

Hi Stefan and Lars,

Oh, I'm so sorry, I've been swamped and completely missed this.

I just tried your patch, and with a quick test it seems to work
perfectly.  Thank you so much (albeit very belatedly).

Putting it on ELPA might be a nice thing to do.

Best wishes,

   Julian





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* bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement
  2020-11-25  9:00 bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement Julian Gilbey
  2020-11-26 10:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-11-26 15:39 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2021-10-14 15:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2021-10-14 15:43   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-10-14 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julian Gilbey; +Cc: 44864

Julian Gilbey <julian-gnu@d-and-j.net> writes:

> I am using multi-mode.el, available from
> http://www.loveshack.ukfsn.org/emacs

This no longer resolves...

Julian Gilbey <julian-gnu@d-and-j.net> writes:

> I just tried your patch, and with a quick test it seems to work
> perfectly.  Thank you so much (albeit very belatedly).
>
> Putting it on ELPA might be a nice thing to do.

Thanks for testing.

Since it seems like it's no longer maintained, and there are other modes
that do equivalent things, it seems like putting it on ELPA isn't the
way to go after all.  So I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#44864: 27.1; advice.el: ad-with-originals deprecated, but no advice on replacement
  2021-10-14 15:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2021-10-14 15:43   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-10-14 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julian Gilbey; +Cc: 44864

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Since it seems like it's no longer maintained, and there are other modes
> that do equivalent things, it seems like putting it on ELPA isn't the
> way to go after all.  So I'm closing this bug report.

Oh, Stefan added it to GNU ELPA already, and applied the patch.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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