From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#42499: [PATCH] Add Bytecode Offset information to Backtrace Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:15:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87tuxxzucm.fsf@gmail.com> <87ft6dusmq.fsf@gnus.org> <83h7qttcxw.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14017"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, zshaftel@gmail.com, 42499@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 18 06:16:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kU07O-0003Xl-3b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 06:16:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58350 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kU07N-000340-4c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:16:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55294) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kU070-00032c-OG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52711) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kU070-00012S-Ev for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kU070-0006au-AI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 04:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42499 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 42499-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B42499.160299455325331 (code B ref 42499); Sun, 18 Oct 2020 04:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 42499) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2020 04:15:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36024 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kU06r-0006aU-6j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:15:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48434) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kU06o-0006aH-VS for 42499@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:15:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38414) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kU06j-0000vt-Mq; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:15:45 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kU06g-0000ye-4o; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:15:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83h7qttcxw.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 17 Oct 2020 12:32:43 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:190858 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I don't think we should start dismissing .elc compiled files just > because native compilation is on the horizon. Some users might > legitimately decide they don't want their Lisp natively-compiled, or > may be unable to do so because of the GCC version they have > installed. We should continue supporting byte-compilation features > for the next few versions at least. We should continue supporting byte compilation indefinitely. My machine is slower than what you are accustomed to, and I think that native compilation could be a big slowdown. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)