From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27170: 26.0.50; Suggestion: Optionally send package build output to log file not *Messages* Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:51:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fuflm0ky.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <87k0xtqozx.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1s08dcf.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21729"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 27170@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 22 05:52:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k9KZd-0005W0-4x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2020 05:52:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51386 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k9KZc-0002Jg-7N for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49900) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k9KZV-0002JC-SP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:52:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37058) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k9KZV-00053H-KA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:52:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k9KZV-00082g-JK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:52:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 03:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27170 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 27170-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27170.159806830930896 (code B ref 27170); Sat, 22 Aug 2020 03:52:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 27170) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2020 03:51:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48604 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k9KZI-00082G-Vh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39690) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k9KZH-000823-Ci for 27170@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:51:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59619) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k9KZC-000519-2z; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:51:42 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k9KZB-0002aB-96; Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:51:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87r1s08dcf.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 21 Aug 2020 13:09:36 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:185917 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Sure, writing the output to a file would be fine, but I don't think > Emacs needs a logging framework for that. If we can redirect messages > to a buffer, then package.el can do whatever it wants with the messages, > including writing them to a file if so desired. I agree. Let's not make this more complex than the minimum. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)