From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41386: 28.0.50; Gnus nnimap OAuth 2.0 support Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:49:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87v9ienz6c.fsf@gnus.org> <878sf9c69y.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17083"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: fitzsim@fitzsim.org, 41386@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 25 05:50:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jzBCN-0004I3-Ap for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 05:50:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44570 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jzBCM-0001wt-CA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:50:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37556) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jzBCE-0001wU-Lm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37595) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jzBCE-0007GX-Ac for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jzBCE-0006z9-6q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:50:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 03:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41386 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 41386-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41386.159564896926804 (code B ref 41386); Sat, 25 Jul 2020 03:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41386) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2020 03:49:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49141 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jzBBg-0006yF-Ux for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:49:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43798) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jzBBe-0006y2-Ez for 41386@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:49:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38344) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jzBBY-000777-M3; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:49:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jzBBX-0007nJ-0s; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:49:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878sf9c69y.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:54:49 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:183514 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > If the Emacs maintainers wants to get involved with Google on this, > that's fine by me. Do you mean, that Eli or Stefan should address this problem in Gnus? I don't think we can possibly do anything on this. > My stance is that Google is obviously not doing > these changes on a good-faith basis, but as a long-term way to shut off > all avenues of using Gmail without going through the official interface. That doesn't seem to be what the Kmail developers think. Many Gnus users will be unhappy if it stops working with Gmail. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)