From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40827: 28.0.50; Macroexpansion at runtime Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:28:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <874kt8snsq.fsf@matem.unam.mx> <87sggrfwo0.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="46223"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: omar@matem.unam.mx, 40827@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 26 05:30:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSXzh-000Buj-2i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 05:30:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51376 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSXzf-0002jc-PR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:30:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSXzY-0002jA-1j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSXzW-0000xn-CG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49131) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSXzW-0000x3-0U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jSXzV-0002IQ-Sn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:30:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 03:30:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40827 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 40827-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40827.15878717668761 (code B ref 40827); Sun, 26 Apr 2020 03:30:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40827) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2020 03:29:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jSXyw-0002HE-0q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:29:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jSXyt-0002H2-SV for 40827@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:29:24 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37602) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSXyj-0000pb-1s; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:29:13 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jSXyT-00035F-9a; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 23:28:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sggrfwo0.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:49:03 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179047 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > [...] But in interpreted execution, the macro is expanded each > time the macro call runs > [...] > If `initialize' is interpreted, a new list `(nil)' is constructed each > time `initialize' is called. Aside from the issue you're discussing, that text has the drawback of using the passive voice. The passive voice tends to be less readable, and it can obscure who or what is performing the action. Would someone please rewrite it to use the active voice? Occasionally the passive voice is necessary, but please write in the active voice whenever that works. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)