From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39962: 27.0.90; Crash in Emacs 27.0.90 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:38:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <24162.58107.725366.668639@cochabamba.vanoostrum.org> <329e58b1-6255-311e-bdd8-b6f5b3d5208f@cs.ucla.edu> <22225b66-44f6-d132-3036-92181d53c28d@cs.ucla.edu> <89A83582-358F-43DC-B96E-04EE9D655D5F@vanoostrum.org> <63b88e2d-9888-f3ce-a4b0-fcf344e803e5@cs.ucla.edu> <83d09lbgk5.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2s48yn7.fsf@gnu.org> <83pndg8vde.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="42968"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 39962@debbugs.gnu.org, pieter-l@vanoostrum.org, pipcet@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 14 04:39:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jCxdo-000B3X-Rv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:39:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40450 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jCxdn-00054p-Us for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:39:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52452) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jCxdf-00054i-Dv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jCxde-0000Ym-9t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jCxde-0000Xw-6R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jCxde-0001Hy-3q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 03:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39962 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 39962-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39962.15841571184922 (code B ref 39962); Sat, 14 Mar 2020 03:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 39962) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2020 03:38:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60468 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jCxdF-0001HK-Nw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36942) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jCxdE-0001H9-Tn for 39962@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jCxd8-00071e-T4; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:38:30 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jCxd7-0008SX-0e; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 23:38:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83pndg8vde.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:19:41 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:177317 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I'm not aware of anyone working on that, no. But I also am not sure > this is something we should do. First, it only works on GNU/Linux, > while Pieter is on macOS AFAIU. The GNU system is our primary target; other systems are secondary. Our motto is, "It runs best on GNU." Therefore if this feature in question would be good to install on GNU/Linux, we should not hold back from that merely because non-GNU systems won't be improved as well. I have not studied this technical issue. Eli's message suggests it may have other problems, and perhaps it is not solid enough to be desirable even on GNU/Linux. I don't have any opinion about that question. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)