From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37627: Document how to bypass the Easy Customization interface Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:21:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87muegjcbk.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="84826"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 37627@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A7=C2=A9=C2=8D=C3=A4=C2=B8=C2=B9=C3=A5=C2=B0=C2=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 05 15:22:20 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iGk0p-000LtN-0z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 15:22:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56726 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iGk0m-0001Zn-MZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:22:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58332) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iGk0Z-0001Ww-Nl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:22:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iGk0Y-0006p2-Lh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35103) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iGk0Y-0006oo-J9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iGk0Y-0003yh-EV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 13:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix notabug Original-Received: via spool by 37627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37627.157028172115283 (code B ref 37627); Sat, 05 Oct 2019 13:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2019 13:22:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43924 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iGk0X-0003yR-AU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:22:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49225) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iGk0V-0003yD-4y for 37627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:21:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iGk0P-0006hv-VY; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iGk0N-0005DV-3G; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 09:21:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87muegjcbk.5.fsf@jidanni.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:168372 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > However certain older users are bad at using interfaces to set > variables and just want to set them the old fashioned way by hand > with setq in their .emacs file. It gives them more feelings of > control. For them, please see the final section below. The purpose is a good one, but (speaking as one of those users) I find it condescending. I suggest these words instead: Some users prefer to write code in @file{.emacs} to set these variables, perhaps because they are already accustomed to that method, or perhaps because they would rather get ``closer to the metal.'' For instructions, see the final section below. -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)