From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13551: acknowledged by developer (control message for bug #13551) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:32:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k19z0xut.fsf@gnus.org> <87pnjliuqh.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="90211"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 13551@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 28 03:33:43 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iE1cB-000NH6-TK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 03:33:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58712 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iE1cA-0003Qm-HP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:33:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60479) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iE1bb-00034o-DG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:33:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iE1ba-0008Qe-3z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40049) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iE1ba-0008QT-0r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iE1bZ-00040A-R5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:33:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 01:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13551 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 13551-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13551.156963435615318 (code B ref 13551); Sat, 28 Sep 2019 01:33:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13551) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Sep 2019 01:32:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48867 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iE1b6-0003yp-Pk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:32:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51176) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iE1b4-0003yR-EL for 13551@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:32:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54174) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iE1ax-00086Q-PI; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:32:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iE1av-0002jt-HP; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:32:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pnjliuqh.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:12:22 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:167450 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I'm not sure I understand. I think it does do something completely > predictable -- choose the key ring entry that matches what's in your > "From" header. We seem to be failing to commnuicate. My From header always says "rms@gnu.org", but we're talking about the address I am sending to -- in the To field. Is that what you mean? The behavior that you describe is totally unpredictable for me because it depends on data I don't know, and have no other reason to know. When foo@bar.com sends me a key, I don't notice what other addresses that key covers. There is no reason to. And those alternate short addresses are not listed by epa-list-keys. If I have a key for 'arthur@gnu.org' and another for 'arthur@berkeley.edu', it is a nuisice for me to check which one, if either, lists just 'arthur' as an address. Especially since when I send mail to 'arthur@gnu.org' I may not even remember I know 'arthur@berkeley.edu'. When I send mail to just 'arthur', that is equivalent by default to 'arthur@gnu.org'. I often omit '@gnu.org' knowing this. Encryption should do the same thing: treat 'arthur' as short for 'arthur@gnu.org'. That way it will always encrypt for the person that the mail is going to. -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)