From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:04:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1537916952 27719 195.159.176.226 (25 Sep 2018 23:09:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com To: Robert Klein Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 26 01:09:08 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wS1-00076l-QT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 01:09:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55629 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wU8-00046I-51 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:11:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wU1-00042x-MC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:11:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wU0-0004I0-Ju for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:11:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:49932) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wP3-0007Em-VZ; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:06:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wP3-0008K2-MY; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:06:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153791672031936 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:06:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2018 23:05:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54190 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wON-0008J2-TL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:05:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58521) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wOK-0008Il-8N for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:05:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wOC-0006Fq-Ab for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:05:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wNw-00064x-Qj; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:04:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wNw-0006ov-H7; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:04:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> (message from Robert Klein on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:53:29 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:150670 Archived-At: [I sent this message a week ago but did not get a response. Could we get the discussion moving again?] [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > As already pointed out by Nicolas Goaziou, org-mode also requires other > external stuff Those other cases may or may not be problems, depending on the situation. The ability to work with some other free software package (for instance, LaTeX0, if the user happens to use that, is no problem at all. Invoking some separate program, having no particular relationship with Emacs, is ok too if the idea is that that program does some separate job and that's what the user wants to do. However, Emacs should not try to bypass the distro's own package installation system by telling users to install things directly. Would you please show me the other cases where Org suggests loading something else? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)