From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6991: Please keep bytecode out of *Backtrace* buffers Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:21:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8739tm9vzl.fsf@jidanni.org> <87vb5ct1lz.fsf@gnus.org> <2223f654-1e67-4a9a-a471-828fd4078410@default> <87fumokzbp.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83oa1bc3x2.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1hrlek2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83eg27bjah.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8cvlcmk.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8360njb9o5.fsf@gnu.org> <877f7zksm0.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83oa1a9msk.fsf@gnu.org> <83vavf73ei.fsf@gnu.org> <8360ne6v1q.fsf@gnu.org> <874m2ujh2v.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480288997 7272 195.159.176.226 (27 Nov 2016 23:23:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 23:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, johnw@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 6991@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 28 00:23:10 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8mr-0000x5-AW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 00:23:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55983 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8mu-0002iF-WC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:23:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8ml-0002gY-By for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:23:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8mk-00066H-85 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:23:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8mk-000664-55 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:23:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8mj-0003Wa-W6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:23:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 23:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6991 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6991-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6991.148028893413495 (code B ref 6991); Sun, 27 Nov 2016 23:23:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6991) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2016 23:22:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43996 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8ly-0003Vb-G0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:22:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43439) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8lx-0003VM-As for 6991@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:22:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8lr-0005k7-CT for 6991@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:22:08 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33150) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8lY-0005YM-2l; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:21:48 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cB8lX-0004ho-27; Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:21:47 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Noam Postavsky on Sat, 26 Nov 2016 19:33:30 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:126198 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Why not take the bytecode _entirely_ out of the backtrace buffer? > > Is it ever any use? > It can be disassembled, and may hold useful information that would > otherwise be missing. That is no reason to put the bytecode in the backtrace by default. We can make another way to get the bytecode when you really want that. > I think it might make sense to hide the bytecode with display > properties, but keep the text itself so that it's not lost when copied > to an email. That might be a good approach. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.