From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24514: 24.5; [WIP][PATCH] Lispy backtraces Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:43:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20160922231447.GA3833@odonien.localdomain> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1474663545 15003 195.159.176.226 (23 Sep 2016 20:45:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 20:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24514@debbugs.gnu.org To: Vasilij Schneidermann Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 23 22:45:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXLW-0001hd-Jz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 22:45:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51329 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXLV-000896-3U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:45:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXKF-0007Ji-U1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXKD-0008FO-Tu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXKD-0008F2-RK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:44:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXKD-0002mx-NR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:44:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 20:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24514 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 24514-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24514.147466340910669 (code B ref 24514); Fri, 23 Sep 2016 20:44:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24514) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2016 20:43:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXJg-0002m1-QD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:43:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54357) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXJf-0002lp-J1 for 24514@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:43:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXJZ-0007AI-GJ for 24514@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:43:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54722) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXJY-00076V-0b; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:43:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bnXJW-0006m1-R0; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:43:18 -0400 In-reply-to: <20160922231447.GA3833@odonien.localdomain> (message from Vasilij Schneidermann on Fri, 23 Sep 2016 01:14:47 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123615 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] An item in a backtrace consists of a function and ACTUAL parameters (argument values). If you do (list 'a 'b), the function will be list and the argument values will be (a b). (list a b) is a misleading way to represent that. It looks like a and b are expressions to be evaluated. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.