From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23151: 25.1.50; Emacs should have a convenient command for saving unchanged buffers Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:09:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459339915 24766 80.91.229.3 (30 Mar 2016 12:11:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23151@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 30 14:11:45 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1alEyA-0007oJ-SY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:11:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53747 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alEy9-0000Pb-RB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alExn-0008PM-0A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alExj-0004wf-6r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:47480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alExj-0004wY-0h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alExi-00045z-TF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23151 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23151-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23151.145933980315655 (code B ref 23151); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2016 12:10:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44603 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alEwk-00044Q-WE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37990) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alEwi-00043r-RG for 23151@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:10:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alEwd-0004JZ-0n for 23151@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:09:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58854) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alEwS-0004GV-UA; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:09:44 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1alEwS-0001GC-5q; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:09:44 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:36:23 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115760 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > During an unrelated discussion on emacs-devel, it turns out that > virtually everybody is in the habit of making a change, then deleting > the change, just to make `C-x C-s' work. That's how I do it. It's convenient and natural. > This means that there is a > need for Emacs to offer a command to save buffers, even if they aren't > changed. I draw a different conclusion: Emacs already has a simple and obvious way to save an unchanged buffer, so no new features are needed for this. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.