From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22566: 24.5; Make shift key translation a customizable feature Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:31:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: <877fijxj0w.fsf@sange.fi> <874mdlobij.fsf@sange.fi> <8737t0lc5o.fsf@sange.fi> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455280343 12130 80.91.229.3 (12 Feb 2016 12:32:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 12:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22566@debbugs.gnu.org To: Aura Kelloniemi Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 12 13:32:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aUCtL-0007z7-Gs for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 13:32:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60235 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUCtK-00043k-Sk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:31:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUCsv-0000bl-Cz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:31:45 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54631) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUCsm-0000Wf-QP; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:31:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aUCsm-0002Rl-6T; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:31:32 -0500 In-reply-to: <8737t0lc5o.fsf@sange.fi> (message from Aura Kelloniemi on Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:15:31 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112927 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The other problem is that I've lately been adding support for shifted function > keys to my Linux console keymap. Emacs' shift translation has made my > debugging harder, because when I use the describe-key-briefly command to check > if emacs got a shifted function key right, it just reports something like > this: " runs the command right-word" even though I pressed > . But when I open an org-file in org-mode and try the same key > combination, emacs now says: " runs the command > org-shiftcontrolright". You could give C-S-Right a definition (same as that of C-Right) and that would turn off the translation. Describe-key-briefly should at least report that it is > doing some translation. It already does this reporting for non-function keys. I agree. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.