From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22145: 25.0.50; tramp and auto-revert tests hang on OS X Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:03:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87d1u62f3l.fsf@gmx.de> <87wpsc18gh.fsf@gmx.de> <87y4cqfdi8.fsf@gmx.de> <87r3ihfgkv.fsf@gmx.de> <87d1u16s8t.fsf@gmx.de> <87zix557k2.fsf@gmx.de> <87si2u4uek.fsf@gmx.de> <87mvsjzp1i.fsf@gmx.de> <87h9irz4t7.fsf@gmx.de> <83poxe35nz.fsf@gnu.org> <87wprlrwbk.fsf@gmx.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452233067 16886 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2016 06:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 06:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, 22145@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de To: Anders Lindgren Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 07:04:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ9j-0003Yj-OO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 07:04:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ9f-0001qw-Q9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43506) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ9b-0001qd-H1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:04:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ9a-0001zY-Fi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:04:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53950) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ9a-0001zU-CF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:04:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ9a-0001sQ-6V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:04:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 06:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22145 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22145-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22145.14522330047163 (code B ref 22145); Fri, 08 Jan 2016 06:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2016 06:03:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42170 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ8x-0001rS-Pp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:03:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52453) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ8w-0001rG-5G for 22145@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:03:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ8q-0001ug-7H for 22145@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:03:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34180) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ8j-0001s9-Au; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:03:09 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aHQ8i-0004JX-AC; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:03:08 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Anders Lindgren on Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:31:37 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:111351 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Wouldn't it be possible for FSF, or the Emacs project itself, to provide an > OS X machine that could be used by developers in similar situations. Our goal is to our goal is to eliminate MacOS, not to enhance it. A nonfree program tramples the freedom of those who use it. If we were running MacOS on a computer, it would take away our freedom. Of course, we don't do that. If we suggested that others run MacOS, we would be inviting them to surrender their freedom. We would be doing wrong to them, and legitimizing that nonfree software as a byproduct. Of course, we don't do that. See http://gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html for why nonfree software is an injustice. See http://gnu.org/philosophy/is-ever-good-use-nonfree-program.html for the very narrow circumstances in which it is good to use a nonfree program: for putting an end to its use. We don't need to develop a free replacement for MacOS because we already have one: the GNU/Linux system. See https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/macbook for how to install one of the free GNU/Linux distros on a Mac. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.