From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: bug#13141: please review bug #13141 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:41:16 -0500 Message-ID: References: <415AF94149E240B7BCB28128E45D3135@us.oracle.com> <20130119232015.GA517@acm.acm> <87obgk5npd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358707328 18436 80.91.229.3 (20 Jan 2013 18:42:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, 13141@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 19:42:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Twzqa-0001Tl-7k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:42:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54303 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwzqJ-0001tf-BC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:42:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53344) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwzqG-0001tY-KM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:42:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwzqF-0004vT-Lb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:42:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36332) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwzqF-0004v8-I9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:42:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwzrC-000880-93 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:43:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13141 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 13141-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13141.135870734031189 (code B ref 13141); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:43:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13141) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2013 18:42:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41796 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwzqW-00086z-29 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:42:20 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56688) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwzqT-00086r-BM for 13141@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:42:18 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwzpU-0007Of-Pd; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:41:16 -0500 In-reply-to: <87obgk5npd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70097 gmane.emacs.devel:156501 Archived-At: I've had at least half a dozen cases where users deleted automatically added information which I then requested -- to no avail, since the reporters never responded. To go out of their way to delete it makes me wonder why. Maybe it was a valid reason. Could it be that there was something private in that information which they specifically did not want to send? Because of this consideration it would not be right to hide that information. We should not try to trick our users into sending us something they did not want to send. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call