From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12621: Emacs 24.1 crashing on Windows 7 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1355394162.15171.YahooMailNeo@web171306.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <83ip85omkv.fsf@gnu.org> <1355424070.10437.YahooMailNeo@web171305.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <82hanognh8.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <83obhvn31t.fsf@gnu.org> <50CCE17A.3040402@dancol.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355693041 12322 80.91.229.3 (16 Dec 2012 21:24:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12621@debbugs.gnu.org, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 16 22:24:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLgw-0000BE-Pu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:24:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60608 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLgj-000610-Ha for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39853) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLgg-0005up-Am for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLgd-0004fb-Fr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:54 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35466) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLgd-0004fW-Ct for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLhm-0000X5-7j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:25:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12621 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12621-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12621.13556930892023 (code B ref 12621); Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12621) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2012 21:24:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45716 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLhY-0000WZ-Cm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:24:48 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:55836) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLhX-0000WT-9u for 12621@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:24:47 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLgN-0003oH-1U; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:35 -0500 In-reply-to: <50CCE17A.3040402@dancol.org> (message from Daniel Colascione on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:45:46 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:68612 Archived-At: You've made a false accusation when you call my criticisms of Windows "FUD". The references for these criticisms are in http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/digital-inclusion-in-freedom.html. You can't have had any evidence for your false accusation. You must have leaped to the conclusion. This bespeaks hostility towards me. You also try to excuse the DRM in Windows on the grounds that DRM is so common. That is bogus -- DRM is never excusable. DRM is an injustice to the user as well as an attack on free software. This bespeaks opposition to our goals. This is the second time you have attacked me on this list. Your technical contributions are useful, but they don't excuse your hostility. If you want to attack me, do it on gnu-misc-discuss or some non-GNU forum -- not here, on a GNU Project working list. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call