From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12621: Emacs 24.1 crashing on Windows 7 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1355394162.15171.YahooMailNeo@web171306.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <83ip85omkv.fsf@gnu.org> <1355424070.10437.YahooMailNeo@web171305.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <82hanognh8.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <83obhvn31t.fsf@gnu.org> <83y5gzqe0r.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355693040 12282 80.91.229.3 (16 Dec 2012 21:24:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12621@debbugs.gnu.org, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 16 22:24:14 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLgu-0000B4-8q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:24:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60460 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLgh-0005uu-1r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39838) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLge-0005un-AS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLgd-0004fQ-5H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:52 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35465) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLgd-0004fM-25 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLhl-0000Wz-Qj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:25:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12621 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12621-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12621.13556930751999 (code B ref 12621); Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12621) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2012 21:24:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45713 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLhL-0000WB-3E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:24:35 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:55821) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLhI-0000W3-Bz for 12621@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:24:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkLg8-0003kF-HE; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:20 -0500 In-reply-to: <83y5gzqe0r.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:03:16 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:68611 Archived-At: > I don't think a piece of proprietary software, with known spyware, DRM > and back doors, deserves respect. Well, actually, it does, for several technical achievements that I can only dream of when I work on modern GNU/Linux systems. I think the ethical nature of a program is more important than its technical advances; thus, while I might agree with your opinion of those technical achievements (and I'd be interested if you told me about them, off the list), I wouldn't grant respect to Windows or Microsoft on account of them. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call