From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13023: 24.3.50; lexical binding does not work within defadvice Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:01:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zk213do1@ch.ristopher.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354492980 26547 80.91.229.3 (3 Dec 2012 00:03:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 00:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 13023@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 03 01:03:10 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TfJV0-0006GN-IH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 01:03:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42765 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TfJUo-0006Zs-Uy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:02:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34032) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TfJUi-0006JR-Qs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:02:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TfJUh-0007sC-BD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:02:44 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40317) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TfJUh-0007rl-7u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:02:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TfJWw-0006Hn-6C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:05:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13023 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13023-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13023.135449305024097 (code B ref 13023); Mon, 03 Dec 2012 00:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2012 00:04:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TfJW5-0006Gb-Cy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:04:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:46347) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TfJW3-0006GT-9z for 13023@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:04:08 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TfJTg-0004X2-Hi; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:01:40 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:15:56 -0500) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67819 Archived-At: Correction: Yes: complexity. Compare nadvice.el and advice.el. The main difference seems to me that part of the arguments of advice.el get pushed into the function that you need to pass to advice-add. So the complexity of using advice-add is no less. Also, you lose the ability to modify the argument values before the advised function's body. The doc string of advice-add is incomplete, so I cannot tell what all its args mean or what it can really do. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call