From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5303: 23.1.91; Cannot load .emacs-history from savehist.el Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:39:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8F73D1539CE042B8A9B48F767127C43B@us.oracle.com> <87bpgtu9o5.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87aawc1xlb.fsf@gmx.de> <8763701whc.fsf@gmx.de> <87r5pm2owq.fsf@gmx.de> <83ockp7v2d.fsf@gnu.org> <87bpgphop0.fsf@gmx.de> <83k4vd7pp4.fsf@gnu.org> <87ockpqi6d.fsf@gmx.de> <87aaw9qfcc.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263985971 5018 80.91.229.12 (20 Jan 2010 11:12:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5303@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 20 12:12:43 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NXYUM-000642-7i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:12:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51299 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NXYUM-00080F-OB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:12:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NXYRK-0006ck-O5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:09:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NXYRG-0006Z1-Rz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:09:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47659 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NXYRG-0006Ym-KB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:09:30 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59844) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NXYRG-0001kO-B4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:09:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NXXyl-0004Yp-MK; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:40:03 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:40:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5303 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5303-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5303.126398395917501 (code B ref 5303); Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:40:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5303) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2010 10:39:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NXXy3-0004YE-0C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:39:19 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NXXy0-0004Xz-1Q for 5303@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:39:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NXXxx-0002UD-A2; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:39:13 -0500 In-reply-to: <87aaw9qfcc.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:45:55 +0100) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:40:03 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34554 Archived-At: > From: Michael Albinus > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, 5303@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:45:55 +0100 > > ! handler = Ffind_file_name_handler (string, > ! NILP (Vinhibit_file_name_operation) > ! ? Qfile_exists_p > ! : Vinhibit_file_name_operation); But this assumes that `openp is called for the same file op for which the value inhibit-file-name-operation was set, doesn't it? I'm not sure such an assumption is safe: `openp' is a very popular utility function, it is called by many Lisp APIs, and could very well be called by some primitive that has nothing to do with inhibit-file-name-operation's value. > > Tramp inhibits the file name handler of `load'. `openp' checks for a > > file name handler of `file-exists-p', which is not inhibited. Let me turn the table and ask you: why doesn't Tramp inhibit _all_ its file name handlers in this case? IIUC, what we want here is to have `load' do its thing with a local file. So which other handlers could we want to be active in this case? (There's still a broader issue with the apparent discrepancy between the handler test in `load' and the similar test in `openp', of course.)