From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jameson Rollins Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#3080: 23.0.92; emacsclient can not open frame without visiting file Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:54:35 -0700 Message-ID: Reply-To: Jameson Rollins , 3080@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240431600 17810 80.91.229.12 (22 Apr 2009 20:20:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rfrancoise@debian.org To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 22:21:19 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LwiwY-00031J-5D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:21:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53555 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lwiv8-0003sP-Vg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:19:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LwevZ-0004I9-0c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:04:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LwevT-0004FV-Il for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56986 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LwevT-0004FL-CI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:39088) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LwevS-0007dH-Ls for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3MG3qoX018004; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:03:52 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3MG031f016811; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:00:03 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Jameson Rollins Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 3080 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.124041564315559 (code B ref -1); Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 22 Apr 2009 15:54:03 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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This is maybe only an issue when emacs is run in --daemon mode where an initial frame is not created. It is often useful to open up an emacs without having a particular file that needs to be editted, and this is not currently possible. In fact, I would prefer to see emacsclient behave more like the "classical" emacs behaves. I would like to see the following behavior, that I think makes more sense and is more compatible with the classic interface: emacsclient opens up a new frame with *scratch* emacsclient opens up a new frame with emacsclient -nw opens up a new frame in the current terminal with *scratch* emacsclient -nw opens up a new frame in the current terminal with emacsclient - opens up in an already opened "master" frame emacs --daemon mode is incredibly useful, and is the way I plan on running emacs in the future, it would be nice to see the emacsclient interface in parity with the standard "classical" emacs interface. Thanks so much for working on the best editor in the world. In GNU Emacs 23.0.92.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.14.7) of 2009-04-11 on elegiac, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090411-1) Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10402000 configured using `configure '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.92/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.0.92/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS='' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t iswitchb-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: s SPC I SPC h o p e d SPC w ESC b ESC b C-e w o u l DEL DEL DEL DEL o u l d SPC b e SPC a v a ESC b ESC b ESC b ESC b ESC b C-k a r e SPC * n o t * SPC a v a i l a b l e . SPC SPC I ' m SPC s o r r y . SPC SPC I SPC r e a l l y SPC h o p e d SPC i t SPC w o u l d SPC h a v e SPC b e e n , SPC s i n c e SPC i t SPC w o u l d SPC h a v e SPC b e e n SPC s o DEL DEL v e r y SPC v DEL g o o d SPC f o r SPC y o u SPC g u y s . SPC SPC L e t SPC m e SPC k n o w SPC i f SPC I SPC c a n SPC h e l p SPC y o u SPC f i n d SPC ESC b ESC b C-k m o r e SPC i n SPC t h e SPC s e a r c h , SPC DEL DEL . RET RET j a m i e . ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C C-d C-d C-d C-d C-d SPC i s ESC q C-x C-s C-x C-c M-x r e p o r t Recent messages: When done with a buffer, type C-x # Auto-saving...done Mark set Auto-saving...done Mark set Auto-saving...done Saving file /tmp/mutt-servo-1000-30596-6... Wrote /tmp/mutt-servo-1000-30596-6 (No files need saving) Making completion list... [2 times]