From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2061: 23.0.60; Add preference to force load of Elisp files when they are newer than corresponding byte-compiled file Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org, 2061@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233656642 6220 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2009 10:24:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 2061@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, bgoodr@gmail.com To: Stefan Monnier , 2061@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 03 11:25:15 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LUISn-0006op-Bi for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 11:25:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50150 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUIRU-0006DX-J9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:23:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUIRO-0006CI-3L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:23:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUIRL-00069t-GG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:23:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33136 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUIRL-00069d-CZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:23:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:54903) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUIRK-0001kI-Jc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:23:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n13ANVrl002123; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:23:31 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n13AA4ve031168; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:10:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Richard M Stallman Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:10:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2061 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2061-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2061.123365527129089 (code B ref 2061); Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:10:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2061) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Feb 2009 10:01:11 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n13A18fU029083 for <2061@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:01:09 -0800 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LUI3t-0003qF-2X; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:59:21 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:49:20 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:23:36 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24890 Archived-At: A common case for me is "bzr pull" or "cvs update" or "tla star-merge" to bring in new changes. I don't look at all the Elisp files brought in so byte-compile-file is not convenient, and byte-compilation often leads to odd results because the `require's read the old .elc files. Are you saying that in this case you would want to load the .el files instead? If so, I wonder if the right solution is to do something special when loading a file for `require' in compilation. Perhaps offer to compile them?