From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2058: 23.0.60; bewildering behavior when visit new file throw.pdf Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:58:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87tz7lt6n7.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org, 2058@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233098648 25338 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2009 23:24:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2058@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Tassilo Horn , 2058@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 28 00:25:22 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LRxJ1-0002ii-Ig for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:25:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57117 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRxHj-0008KM-GD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:23:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRxHL-00082M-Kj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:23:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRxHK-00080c-8V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:23:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59883 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRxHK-00080U-2V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:23:34 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:58863) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LRxHI-0001VH-Fa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:23:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0RNNTak010427; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:23:30 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0RN58uH005949; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:05:08 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Richard M Stallman Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:05:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2058 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2058-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2058.12330972134361 (code B ref 2058); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:05:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2058) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Jan 2009 23:00:13 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0RN06FS003993 for <2058@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:00:07 -0800 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LRwt1-00036i-JW; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:58:27 -0500 In-reply-to: <87tz7lt6n7.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (message from Tassilo Horn on Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:55:40 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:23:35 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24650 Archived-At: > I did C-x C-f throw.pdf, with no existing file throw.pdf. The ensuing > messages and interaction were bewildering. Is that really a use-case? Sure. It is not very useful, but why give a misleading and inaccurate error message? It would be better to do (message "Empty file is not a real PDF file")