From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jari Aalto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: terminal.el: terminal-escape-char impossible in European keyboards Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:36:05 +0300 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093541831 10503 80.91.224.253 (26 Aug 2004 17:37:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 26 19:36:47 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C0OB4-0005Nm-00 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:36:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C0OFh-00068p-W4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:41:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C0OFE-0005uU-Pr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:41:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C0OFD-0005u2-QZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:41:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C0OFD-0005ts-M6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:41:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.229.0.45] (helo=fep19-app.kolumbus.fi) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C0OAS-0002o6-IX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:36:08 -0400 Original-Received: from ns.cante.net ([81.197.3.110]) by fep19-app.kolumbus.fi with ESMTP id <20040826173606.QKJL14814.fep19-app.kolumbus.fi@ns.cante.net> for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:36:06 +0300 Original-Received: from jaalto by ns.cante.net with local (Exim 4.34) id 1C0OAP-0007Ic-03 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:36:06 +0300 Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jaalto@cante.net X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1 (built Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:06:07 +0200) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on ns.cante.net) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:8815 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:8815 This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation, not to your local site managers! Please write in English, because the Emacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list, and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group. In GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i386-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2004-08-03 on raven, modified by Debian configured using `configure '--build=i386-linux' '--host=i386-linux' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=athena' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'build_alias=i386-linux' 'host_alias=i386-linux'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: I wuold like to propose that the terminal-escape-char ?\C-^ is changed to a better alternative. The ^ character (including ~) too is not a natural key at least in Finnish keyboard. I don't know the technical term, but it's those "dead" keys that need to be configured separately. I was ssh'ing to remote site and working in "emacs -nw" and opened op M-x terminal-emulator, just to find out that there was nothing I could do to get back to the Emacs where it was running. The default key terminal-escape-char was not produced in this remote ssh connection. I would propose this instead for default value: terminal-escape-char ?\C-' Jari Recent input: ESC x r e p o r t - e m TAB RET Recent messages: Loading 50emacs-goodies-el (source)...done Loading 50emacs-goodies-extra-el (source)...done Loading 50flim (source)...done Loading 50gettext (source)...done Loading 50nowebm (source)...done Loading 50psvn (source)...done Loading 50vc-svn (source)...done Loading 51debian-el (source)...done For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p. Loading emacsbug...done