From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Corneli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: distributed moderating Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:29:37 -0500 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081582428 27859 80.91.224.253 (10 Apr 2004 07:33:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 07:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 10 09:33:38 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BCCzi-000246-00 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 09:33:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BCCyV-00028t-UV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 03:32:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BCCyQ-00028K-G2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 03:32:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BCCxu-000210-NK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 03:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [146.6.139.124] (helo=dell3.ma.utexas.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BCCvr-0001kB-4O; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 03:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from linux183.ma.utexas.edu (mail@linux183.ma.utexas.edu [146.6.139.172]) by dell3.ma.utexas.edu (8.11.0.Beta3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id i3A7Tbq22349; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:29:37 -0500 Original-Received: from jcorneli by linux183.ma.utexas.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BCCvp-0001yj-00; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:29:37 -0500 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 18:44:42 -0400) X-all-your-base-are-belong-to-us: You are on the way to destruction. X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:7562 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:7562 In a few weeks or months our sysadmins are supposed to switch to Bayesian spam filtering, which I hope will get rid of much of the spam. OK, I don't know anything about the math here, but getting rid of the spam would be great. Moderation by several people will only work if someone is prepared to supervise the moderation activity and make sure it gets done each day, reminding moderators and recruiting more of them as needed. Otherwise, it's likely that many of them will drift away and that messages won't get through. The way I was thinking about it, everyone who had signed up to receive email from the given list might be a moderator. I haven't got a good algorithm in mind that doesn't involve editing through the web. But if the web was involved, people could flag messages as "legitimate" or as "spam", at which point they would either be released to the list or discarded. If everyone who was signed up to receive mail from the list was considered to be a moderator (in this sense of the word) I think mail would go through pretty quickly. But if an automatic filter works (as I imagine it should!) then such outlandish measures wouldn't be called for.