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From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>, 74963@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#74963: Ambiguous treesit named and anonymous nodes in ruby-ts-mode
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 01:11:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E14E862C-F992-4E35-BC98-84D0E4988F12@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7102oar.fsf@mail.linkov.net>



> On Dec 24, 2024, at 11:49 PM, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> wrote:
> 
>>> This mismatched "string" in TypeScript is even more
>>> unexpected than "unless" in Ruby.
>>> 
>>> So probably we need a way to mark all used nodes as named
>>> to avoid such unexpected matches.  Maybe matching anonymous nodes
>>> should be opt-in, and by default match only named nodes.
>> 
>> IMHO this is just an unfortunate bug that needs to be fixed. I agree that
>> this type of bug are hard to avoid, which is a bad thing, but that doesn’t
>> mean we should try to alleviate it at any cost. Making predicates named by
>> default just adds complexity and inflexibility for not much benefit.
> 
> Not sure if a possible flexibility is better than unintended matches.
> 
> When the authors of a ts-mode carefully selected a list of named nodes to match,
> why treesit should try to match some random and unintended anonymous nodes?

I don’t know and can’t prove how much the flexibility is worth, but the cost on complexity is real. If everywhere else uses thing predicates as-is, but sexp navigation auto-converts thing predicates into named predicate, that’s a cognitive burden and a special case that’s guaranteed to trip people over.

OTOH, what’s the downside of wrapping the sexp predicate with (and named …), if you only want named nodes to match?

I just think the cost outweighs the benefit, if there is any to begin with.

Yuan




  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-25  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-21  5:06 bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26  7:42 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-26  9:56   ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 10:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 12:13       ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 13:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 15:21           ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 15:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27  5:43               ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-29 16:56                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-01  3:57                   ` Yuan Fu
2024-10-01 17:49                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-02  6:14                       ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-05 18:52                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-05 19:53                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-10 17:20                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-11  6:31                             ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-11 15:12                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 15:29                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 16:50                                 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-12-11 18:27                                 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-12  7:17                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12  7:40                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12  7:58                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12  8:14                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 16:31                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 17:49                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 19:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13  7:06                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-14 11:02                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 18:14                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-18  7:37                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19  4:04                                                 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19  7:14                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19  7:18                                                   ` bug#74963: Ambiguous treesit named and anonymous nodes in ruby-ts-mode Juri Linkov
2024-12-24  3:02                                                     ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-24  7:17                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24  7:41                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25  3:25                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-25  7:52                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-26  1:00                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-24 17:52                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:03                                                         ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25  7:49                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25  9:11                                                             ` Yuan Fu [this message]
2024-12-25 17:39                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19  7:34                               ` bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 19:05                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:14                                   ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25  7:44                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25  8:34                                       ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:36                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 17:19                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-25 18:01                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 19:29                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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