From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14233: 24.3; Don't constrain frame size to character multiples Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:30:32 +0200 Message-ID: References: <2r7gjy2gyy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83bo991z00.fsf@gnu.org> <517257A0.4080607@gmx.at> <8338ul1rmb.fsf@gnu.org> <517275A0.1040702@gmx.at> <83wqrxzbc7.fsf@gnu.org> <51729A6A.7090404@gmx.at> <83mwstyxre.fsf@gnu.org> <5172D1D6.8030200@gmx.at> <83bo99ys79.fsf@gnu.org> <5173B0B2.9070607@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366565477 17894 80.91.229.3 (21 Apr 2013 17:31:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 17:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esabof@gmail.com, 14233@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 21 19:31:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UTy6j-0000wm-G0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:31:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40483 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTy6j-0000It-2g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:31:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60693) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTy6f-0000If-Uv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:31:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTy6e-0006Nn-Jk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:31:17 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UTy6e-0006Na-Fr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:31:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UTyBG-0006YT-5S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:36:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 17:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14233 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14233-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14233.136656572625110 (code B ref 14233); Sun, 21 Apr 2013 17:36:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2013 17:35:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UTyAf-0006Wt-Bg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]:44072) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UTyAb-0006Wb-Pa for 14233@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:35:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B04C004 for <14233@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:30:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 12445 invoked by uid 89); 21 Apr 2013 17:29:40 -0000 Original-Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 21 Apr 2013 17:29:40 -0000 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 86AA47FA058; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:30:32 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <5173B0B2.9070607@gmx.at> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73560 Archived-At: Hello. 21 apr 2013 kl. 11:26 skrev martin rudalics : > A frame, according to the Elisp manual, is a screen object that = contains > one or more Emacs windows. When with emacs -Q I evaluate = (frame-width) > and (window-width) I get the values 80. If I split the window into = two > side-by-side windows (frame-width) still evaluates to 80, but for both > emanating windows (window-width) evaluates to 38. Somehow 4 = characters > got lost in a black hole. And bug#14222 demonstrates that Emacs = itself > sometimes doesn't understand its own nomenclature. If I split in 2 I get window-size 37. If I remove fringes I get 40. If I remove scrollbars, I get frame-size 83, and window-size 41. So one character is lost somewhere. This is a mess, and needs clearing up. I suspect differences between = ports exist. Maybe the best is to define how things ought to be and then fix the = ports, rather than look at the current implementation(s). =20 Jan D.