From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38818: jidanni's mail headers not perfect?! Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 12:09:17 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87imlxlrrv.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87v9pv28qu.fsf@web.de> <87d0c33mdx.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87o8vnq1ph.fsf@web.de> <875zhv3jyr.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87eewjydyg.fsf@web.de> <87sgkw60fi.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <8736cwrub9.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87y2uoqds6.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83lfqlgbrk.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgktkbqg.8.fsf@jidanni.org> <838smlg2om.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0bxk9ea.8.fsf_-_@jidanni.org> <837e25g0lr.fsf@gnu.org> <8336ctfepf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="145132"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, larsi@gnus.org, jidanni@jidanni.org, rms@gnu.org, 38818@debbugs.gnu.org To: Pieter van Oostrum Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 06 11:10:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ioPKs-000bXE-4M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 11:10:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50094 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ioPKq-0003iG-SJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 05:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34187) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ioPKl-0003gt-VE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 05:10:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ioPKk-0002wX-KH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 05:10:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39096) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ioPKk-0002wO-Gj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 05:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ioPKk-0005Yl-B9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 05:10:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2020 10:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38818 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38818-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38818.157830537521333 (code B ref 38818); Mon, 06 Jan 2020 10:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38818) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2020 10:09:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45069 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ioPKI-0005Y0-QJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 05:09:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53271) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ioPKH-0005Xm-En for 38818@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 05:09:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ioPKB-0002gH-Tu; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 05:09:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.12.180.157] (port=34105 helo=[10.212.47.98]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ioPK4-0006Cz-JE; Mon, 06 Jan 2020 05:09:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:174231 Archived-At: On January 6, 2020 11:56:18 AM GMT+02:00, Pieter van Oostrum wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 > OK, then I probably didn't understand you=2E > You asked about =3D?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?=3D > "Why do you think this arrives intact to people's MUA?" >=20 > So I thought you meant there is something wrong with that part=2E > Apparently you did not mean that=2E So what did you mean? Dan seems to > want that part (some CJK characters) to show up in the email, and it > does for me=2E And that is how it should be=2E I'm saying that if the original mail had some suitable MIME charset in its= headers, the problem would be less likely to happen=2E Because email mess= ages that rely on implicit encoding specifications are more likely to hit s= ubtle problems=2E And btw, no one can rely on having the exact same encoded name in response= email, MUA and MTA are free to change the representation at will, as long = as the content is transferred without losses=2E