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Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:41:11 -0500 X-Authenticated-User: mattiase@bredband.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=megamailservers.eu; s=maildub; t=1643650863; bh=xwofsKsAzZ5+w1x+k7gGn0Ts7zFjA3J67aWoOLQc9GA=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=EpqVu4lLQQZkwJG5t42XVQC1p/MI+ZcTGXdw5GFWjSsvZkjCnnP2sricXW1pwgMpM H8OkT9kwkV4O99W1UsS08vJaai0Szd02QiN8A6X8nA5YP8Q9M28sh8TS3s+V/TDL6s 1GXsdRp88+D0kGPedsSz5gFdD453Kj/9OQJKNSk0= Feedback-ID: mattiase@acm.or Original-Received: from smtpclient.apple (c188-150-171-71.bredband.tele2.se [188.150.171.71]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail194c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id 20VHexGY002981; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:41:01 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87a6fdcjiy.fsf@gnus.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A742F22.61F81F2E.0087, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-Origin-Country: SE X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:225708 Archived-At: 30 jan. 2022 kl. 16.47 skrev Lars Ingebrigtsen : > What I see attractive about splitting this up into two commands is = that > there's more information about positions and characters that would be > useful, I think. =20 > For instance, when I'm wondering about a character > it's because it's odd to me somehow, so knowing the name and the > general-category of the character (in addition to the Unicode char > number) is what I'd like to know. Being a two-letter code, the general category could certainly fit into = the current (revised) format. While you and I would find it useful, we = are ones who know our Zp from our Cf; the typical user may find those = codes mysterious. But perhaps that is not automatically a usability = problem? Otherwise, for more exact inspection of the character at point we have = describe-char, or `C-u C-x =3D`. (Most people seem to agree that its = layout could be improved but that's a different matter.)