From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15273: 24.3.50; Combining character sequences are displayed weirdly Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 10:54:58 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9243D0C8-83F9-40B4-8F2C-37517A1F6BCC@swipnet.se> <8338pjnqfm.fsf@gnu.org> <831u53npuy.fsf@gnu.org> <7977F745-C1B8-44AD-9710-3CE9567C5338@swipnet.se> <83zjrrm9tc.fsf@gnu.org> <5B85556B-72FB-49DB-96F8-A38939746260@swipnet.se> <83r4d2mpi2.fsf@gnu.org> <87vc2ee9io.fsf@igel.home> <83ppsmmml5.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjrqkkun.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppslks82.fsf@gnu.org> <80DE2CE4-1702-4555-B336-D11A281C44E9@swipnet.se> <83li39kqru.fsf@gnu.org> <1737AA30-1186-40EF-A225-1AFA1A73622B@swipnet.se> <83k3itkq6c.fsf@gnu.org> <83ioydkosp.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378544175 22929 80.91.229.3 (7 Sep 2013 08:56:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 08:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, 15273@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 07 10:56:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEJV-0006Ls-9l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 10:56:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41202 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEJV-00039f-0i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:56:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60198) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEJM-00039O-8x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:56:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEJH-0007QP-5R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:56:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEJH-0007QK-1o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEJG-0003SW-G0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 08:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15273 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15273-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15273.137854410713222 (code B ref 15273); Sat, 07 Sep 2013 08:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15273) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2013 08:55:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46098 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEIL-0003RA-K3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:55:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:56409) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VIEIG-0003Qf-82 for 15273@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 30753 invoked by uid 89); 7 Sep 2013 08:54:58 -0000 Original-Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 7 Sep 2013 08:54:58 -0000 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (unknown [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C101A1A009A; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 08:54:58 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83ioydkosp.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:78099 Archived-At: Hello. 7 sep 2013 kl. 10:40 skrev Eli Zaretskii : >> From: Jan Dj=E4rv >> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 10:27:45 +0200 >> Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, >> 15273@debbugs.gnu.org >>=20 >> But from what I see on X11 and what you reported from W32, no other = platform does produce the correct result (i.e. the ! and the triangle in = the same place), so comparing to those backends doesn't help. >=20 > In that case, yes, I think we can conclude that there's no Emacs > issue. =20 Except the larger bug that Emacs does not handle combining characters = correctly in the general case, i.e. not combining the ! and the triangle = on X11 and W32 (and Mac port). And if it is a bug in the NS font driver, = that is also an Emacs issue. There must be one, either metrics should = be corrected or the NS font driver should be modified to behave in the = same (incorrect) way as the other platforms. So it is too early to dismiss this as not an Emacs issue. > But Xue now seems to say that there are other similar > situations with other combining characters, so we need to know if any > compositions are involved in those. The exact key sequences that produced them would help also. Jan D.